Long Ball Larry 1,352 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 20 minutes ago, Remij said: You just know Sony is looking HAAAAARRRD at this and considering whether or not GaaS is something they want to pursue any longer. We know they can be successful.. but you really need the right game at the right time. They need to listen to their fans and if they want to do MP games, do it with IP that is a good fit for it. They have Warhawk, Socom, Resistance, Killzone... and so on. From there, experiment with modes and monetization... don't just feed people the same shit every other studio tries to. I REALLY wish TLOU Factions would have released and they just reworked it into a kickass MP game... Naughty Dog knows how to make fun MP modes in their games... it would have done extremely well I'm sure. They don’t have a choice… that’s why we are where we are. Their SP games don’t make enough money to continue to make. This is what the future of Sony looks like. Link to post Share on other sites
Cell 636 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 I don't know why but TLHBO 1 Link to post Share on other sites
FIREPOWER 917 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 1 hour ago, Remij said: You just know Sony is looking HAAAAARRRD at this and considering whether or not GaaS is something they want to pursue any longer. We know they can be successful.. but you really need the right game at the right time. They need to listen to their fans and if they want to do MP games, do it with IP that is a good fit for it. They have Warhawk, Socom, Resistance, Killzone... and so on. From there, experiment with modes and monetization... don't just feed people the same shit every other studio tries to. I REALLY wish TLOU Factions would have released and they just reworked it into a kickass MP game... Naughty Dog knows how to make fun MP modes in their games... it would have done extremely well I'm sure. I've been saying this for a while. They are sitting on a gold mine of old IPs that can easily be resurrected as GAAS games and do extremely well if they take their time making them. Problem is Sony isn't listening to their fans, they are listening to investors and making dumbass moves by chasing trends in the industry. They need to listen to gamers and their hardcore fans that have been begging for games like Warhawk, SOCOM, Resistance, KZ, etc. to make a comeback instead of listening to stupid dudes in suits who don't have any idea what they are talking about. If they know what's good for them they'll abandon this shitty GAAS initiative and focus on their single player games and existing IPs, then work on ways on bringing multiplayer options to the games they already have or creating multiplayer games that are original and that no one else is doing. You can't come into a crowded market like GAAS and start releasing generic trash like Concord and expect it to do well. They need more games like Helldivers 2 and less like Concord. Link to post Share on other sites
FIREPOWER 917 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 53 minutes ago, Long Ball Larry said: They don’t have a choice… that’s why we are where we are. Their SP games don’t make enough money to continue to make. This is what the future of Sony looks like. That's horse shit. Their single player games make a shit ton of money for them. We've seen their financials already and the PS5 generation is already more profitable for them than the entire 4 previous gens combined. Their games sell well and bring enough people to their ecosystem to ensure they get the lion's share of third party revenue. They are making tons of money off the PS5 and the PS5 is successful because of their first party AAA single player games like God of War, Spiderman, Horizon, etc. to even argue otherwise is completely retarded but I expect nothing less from you lol. The real issue here is greed. They are greedy and so are their investors. They've made so much money this gen that it has clouded their heads and they are starting to become arrogant like they were during the end of the PS2 gen. This is leading to unforced failures like Concord. It reminds me of how MS made so much money during the tail end of the 360 gen that they too started fucking up and came up with the XB1 and forced Kinect. Sony is nowhere near that happening but if they don't course correct they could end up losing a lot of money and hurting the prestige of their brand. Too many back to back flops isn't a good thing (ask MS lol). Link to post Share on other sites
Long Ball Larry 1,352 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 10 minutes ago, FIREPOWER said: That's horse shit. Their single player games make a shit ton of money for them. We've seen their financials already and the PS5 generation is already more profitable for them than the entire 4 previous gens combined. Their games sell well and bring enough people to their ecosystem to ensure they get the lion's share of third party revenue. They are making tons of money off the PS5 and the PS5 is successful because of their first party AAA single player games like God of War, Spiderman, Horizon, etc. to even argue otherwise is completely retarded but I expect nothing less from you lol. The real issue here is greed. They are greedy and so are their investors. They've made so much money this gen that it has clouded their heads and they are starting to become arrogant like they were during the end of the PS2 gen. This is leading to unforced failures like Concord. It reminds me of how MS made so much money during the tail end of the 360 gen that they too started fucking up and came up with the XB1 and forced Kinect. Sony is nowhere near that happening but if they don't course correct they could end up losing a lot of money and hurting the prestige of their brand. Too many back to back flops isn't a good thing (ask MS lol). Which SP games made money or like, a decent amount? Link to post Share on other sites
MalaXmaS 701 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 8 minutes ago, Long Ball Larry said: Which SP games made money or like, a decent amount? Sony is in deep shit right now. Between the Bungie acquisition and wasting 200 million and 8 years on this turd, they are desperate to make that money back but they can't do it through their usual ways. That is why they are downsizing like crazy and catering to different and unexplored markets before. The transition is so bad though that Sony is still trying to enforce their same closed console universe with PC gamers and they are being greeted with protests and boycotts. Lmfao Sony is so fucked. Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,841 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 Under 100 players after a week This game will have the most elusive Platinum trophy. Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,841 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 This cuck gutted Sony Japan for this. “I’m confident the studio’s upcoming project will be a robust addition to PlayStation Studios’ portfolio, and its live service and technology expertise will be instrumental in helping grow PlayStation’s reach.” “We’re thrilled to expand upon our collaborative relationship with Firewalk Studios and formally welcome the team to PlayStation Studios,” said Hermen Hulst, Head of PlayStation Studios. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,143 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 6 hours ago, MalaXmaS said: It didn't even last 3 months. It didn't even last 3 weeks lmao. It released on the 23rd looooool 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,841 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 What are the chances the studio gets shutdown? Or sony invested too much for them to do that. Link to post Share on other sites
FIREPOWER 917 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 1 hour ago, Long Ball Larry said: Which SP games made money or like, a decent amount? God of War Ragnarok made a shit ton of money, so did Spiderman 2. While you were out damage controlling for Starfield flopping Sony cleaned house last year on the back of Spiderman 2. Their games push hardware, they don't need GAAS as they already make a ton of money from the free GAAS money they get on PS5 thanks to MS and all the other third party games. Sony are the only ones outside of Rockstar and maybe Ubisoft making single player games and people buy their consoles to play them and all the other big third party games like COD and Fortnite. They get 30% ofthe revenue of every GAAS game sold on PS5. Xbox is flopping because MS doesn't have anything to compete with Sony in that regard with flops like Starflop and Hellflop 2, and they are trying to woo gamers with the same third party games that already look and run better on PS5 while offering nothing unique of their own Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,841 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Imagine of they got a decent Japanese studio make a Bloodborne or Demon Souls sequel instead with say a 50 million budget instead. Link to post Share on other sites
MalaXmaS 701 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 1 hour ago, Playstation Tablet said: This cuck gutted Sony Japan for this. “I’m confident the studio’s upcoming project will be a robust addition to PlayStation Studios’ portfolio, and its live service and technology expertise will be instrumental in helping grow PlayStation’s reach.” “We’re thrilled to expand upon our collaborative relationship with Firewalk Studios and formally welcome the team to PlayStation Studios,” said Hermen Hulst, Head of PlayStation Studios. So thrilled to expand their relationship with Firewalk Studios and their impressive catalogue of 1 game, which flopped in less than a month. Link to post Share on other sites
Long Ball Larry 1,352 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 (edited) 42 minutes ago, FIREPOWER said: God of War Ragnarok made a shit ton of money, so did Spiderman 2. While you were out damage controlling for Starfield flopping Sony cleaned house last year on the back of Spiderman 2. Their games push hardware, they don't need GAAS as they already make a ton of money from the free GAAS money they get on PS5 thanks to MS and all the other third party games. Sony are the only ones outside of Rockstar and maybe Ubisoft making single player games and people buy their consoles to play them and all the other big third party games like COD and Fortnite. They get 30% ofthe revenue of every GAAS game sold on PS5. Xbox is flopping because MS doesn't have anything to compete with Sony in that regard with flops like Starflop and Hellflop 2, and they are trying to woo gamers with the same third party games that already look and run better on PS5 while offering nothing unique of their own Spiderman 2 did not make a shit to of money. It took over 7 million just to break even. out of the 10 or so million sold, 2-3 million were easily bundled. I’d be surprised if they made ANYTHING of it. now do you start to realize? Edited September 4 by Long Ball Larry Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,789 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Biggest flop Sony has ever released and couldn't happen to a better game if you're a fan of what Sony is actually good at. Should hopefully send a clear signal into what people want from them. With all that said, this is no doubt being done to re release it as a F2P 1 Link to post Share on other sites
FIREPOWER 917 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 1 hour ago, Long Ball Larry said: Spiderman 2 did not make a shit to of money. It took over 7 million just to break even. out of the 10 or so million sold, 2-3 million were easily bundled. I’d be surprised if they made ANYTHING of it. now do you start to realize? You’re a retard. We already saw their financials. They made a shit ton of money last year. They made more money last year than they’ve ever made in their history. You’re full of shit Link to post Share on other sites
Long Ball Larry 1,352 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 5 minutes ago, FIREPOWER said: You’re a retard. We already saw their financials. They made a shit ton of money last year. They made more money last year than they’ve ever made in their history. You’re full of shit You don’t know what profit is Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,789 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Just now, Long Ball Larry said: You don’t know what profit is Sounds like you don't know what operating income is 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Long Ball Larry 1,352 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 (edited) 14 minutes ago, madmaltese said: Sounds like you don't know what operating income is it’s all largely due to PC sales read more if interested Sony is undoubtly pc day and date by start of next gen Edited September 4 by Long Ball Larry Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,789 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 1 minute ago, Long Ball Larry said: it’s all largely due to PC sales read more if interested https://www.neogaf.com/threads/game-industry-biz-sonys-gaming-business-is-struggling-and-its-purpose-is-now-unclear.1674542/ Sony is undoubtly pc day and date by start of next gen LOL you were talking about Spiderman and the figures that were posted were for the Spiderman 2 window where Operating Income grew massively (due to Spiderman 2). Now you're diverting on to figures that have nothing to do with Spiderman or any first party release... Just take the L bro. You've been doing it for years with Xbox and Tyrone, one more won't hurt. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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