Long Ball Larry 1,352 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 8 minutes ago, madmaltese said: LOL you were talking about Spiderman and the figures that were posted were for the Spiderman 2 window where Operating Income grew massively (due to Spiderman 2). Now you're diverting on to figures that have nothing to do with Spiderman or any first party release... Just take the L bro. You've been doing it for years with Xbox and Tyrone, one more won't hurt. Spiderman 2 took 300 million to make and barely broke even did this hurt your feelings? Lmfao. It’s factual, there’s nothing to debate. Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,789 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 5 minutes ago, Long Ball Larry said: Spiderman 2 took 300 million to make and barely broke even did this hurt your feelings? Lmfao. It’s factual, there’s nothing to debate. Actual facts: Profits rose, with operating income +$868M in Q4 (up +172% over Q4 FY22) Operating income was at +$2B in FY23 (+16% increase over FY22) Like you said, there is nothing to debate and you dedicate your life to a system to you even like or play lol Why does it hurt you so much? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Long Ball Larry 1,352 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 1 minute ago, madmaltese said: Actual facts: Profits rose, with operating income +$868M in Q4 (up +172% over Q4 FY22) Operating income was at +$2B in FY23 (+16% increase over FY22) Like you said, there is nothing to debate and you dedicate your life to a system to you even like or play lol Why does it hurt you so much? No where in there does it say Spiderman made bank. Lmfao. Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,428 Posted September 4 Author Share Posted September 4 1 minute ago, madmaltese said: Actual facts: Profits rose, with operating income +$868M in Q4 (up +172% over Q4 FY22) Operating income was at +$2B in FY23 (+16% increase over FY22) Like you said, there is nothing to debate and you dedicate your life to a system to you even like or play lol Why does it hurt you so much? Link to post Share on other sites
Long Ball Larry 1,352 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Cows think PS5 is selling so well that Sony is going multiplaform for the benefit of other gamers Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,428 Posted September 4 Author Share Posted September 4 1 minute ago, Long Ball Larry said: Cows think PS5 is selling so well that Sony is going multiplaform for the benefit of other gamers How’s it not selling well? Link to post Share on other sites
Twinblade★ 4,189 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 54 minutes ago, madmaltese said: Biggest flop Sony has ever released and couldn't happen to a better game if you're a fan of what Sony is actually good at. Should hopefully send a clear signal into what people want from them. With all that said, this is no doubt being done to re release it as a F2P Going F2P would still require some work and further investment. The question is whether Sony actually thinks the game would even be worth it and honestly at this point I wouldn't be surprised if they just buried it for good. Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,789 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 5 minutes ago, Long Ball Larry said: No where in there does it say Spiderman made bank. Lmfao. lmao yeah those operating income increase came from the non existent Sony PC releases that came out at that period Link to post Share on other sites
Long Ball Larry 1,352 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Just now, lynux3 said: How’s it not selling well? Because their model is broken. they have to sell 3x what their selling now for it to work. hence all the shitty, short-supported, yet expensive accessories (ps portal, psvr2) focus on live service games releasing games on multiple platforms licensing IP theyre trying to make a penny anywhere they can Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,789 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 1 minute ago, Twinblade said: Going F2P would still require some work and further investment. The question is whether Sony actually thinks the game would even be worth it and honestly at this point I wouldn't be surprised if they just buried it for good. Yeah can see them doing that also but that's a lot of work to just bury in the span of a couple weeks lol Link to post Share on other sites
Long Ball Larry 1,352 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 (edited) 2 minutes ago, madmaltese said: lmao yeah those operating income increase came from the non existent Sony PC releases that came out at that period Do you think the budget was placed in the same quarter as the games sales? im confused what you’re dumb ass is even debating. You think Spiderman made hundred of millions? We already know it’s budget and what it sold Edited September 4 by Long Ball Larry Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,789 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Just now, Long Ball Larry said: Do you think the budget was placed in the same quarter as the games sales? The straws you are grasping at. Marketing budget, yes totally, other than that every other ongoing cost like studio wages is always ongoing anyway, like every studio ever and everywhere, but you sure as fuck KNOW a game makes money when there is a jump in operating income in the quarter it is released and then also having an impact on the total FY. Again as usual you just talk pure bs. The game has sold over 11m copies, it broke the day 1 sales record for Sony at the time. Even at your 300m budget, the 2.5x70 is 175m on just day 1 and you think they didnt make hundreds of millions more from the other 8.5m sales Delusional land. buh but teh bundles 1 Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,428 Posted September 4 Author Share Posted September 4 8 minutes ago, Long Ball Larry said: Because their model is broken. they have to sell 3x what their selling now for it to work. hence all the shitty, short-supported, yet expensive accessories (ps portal, psvr2) focus on live service games releasing games on multiple platforms licensing IP theyre trying to make a penny anywhere they can PSVR2 failed, but Portal has been successful thus far, surprisingly. I think PlayStation is doing just fine. Link to post Share on other sites
Long Ball Larry 1,352 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Just now, lynux3 said: PSVR2 failed, but Portal has been successful thus far, surprisingly. I think PlayStation is doing just fine. It was a shitty Device that costs nearly nothing and made Sony money. Expect lots more of these crappy devices to get more money from the consumer. Link to post Share on other sites
Long Ball Larry 1,352 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 4 minutes ago, madmaltese said: The straws you are grasping at. Marketing budget, yes totally, other than that every other ongoing cost like studio wages is always ongoing anyway, like every studio ever and everywhere, but you sure as fuck KNOW a game makes money when there is a jump in operating income in the quarter it is released and then also having an impact on the total FY. Again as usual you just talk pure bs. The game has sold over 11m copies, it broke the day 1 sales record for Sony at the time. Even at your 300m budget, the 2.5x70 is 175m on just day 1 and you think they didnt make hundreds of millions more from the other 8.5m sales Delusional land. buh but teh bundles it didn’t break even until 7.2 million sales. and yes, 3+ million are from bundles. Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,428 Posted September 4 Author Share Posted September 4 3 minutes ago, Long Ball Larry said: It was a shitty Device that costs nearly nothing and made Sony money. Expect lots more of these crappy devices to get more money from the consumer. Which device? PSVR2 or Portal? Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,789 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Just now, Long Ball Larry said: it didn’t break even until 7.2 million sales. and yes, 3+ million are from bundles. Your own numbers and logic: 300m budget = 4.3m sales @ $70 (Game is literally still basically price atm) Your 'but but bundles' stupidity....do you think they are giving it for free? PS5 Slim: $499.99 PS5 Slim SM2 Bundle: $559.99 So they are selling SM2 for $60 instead of $70 if you get the bundle. Literally a saving of $10. They sold 2.5m day 1 at $70 So again your numbers... 3m @ $60 (from the bundle) is $180m, on top of the 2.5m @ $70 which is $175m. So they're already in profit (over 300m in sales) .....and you've only accounted for half their sales Enjoy continuing to be stupid 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Impossible 566 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 8 hours ago, JonDnD said: Lmfao at the cows laughing with this Sony sucks TCHBFR Should they act overly emotional and throw a tantrum like Xbox fanboys do? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
FIREPOWER 917 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Not surprising Cukstz the retard doesn't know what operating income is. The guy is a total moron. No wonder his girl cheats on him with other guys and he allows it Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,143 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 (edited) 3 hours ago, madmaltese said: Your own numbers and logic: 300m budget = 4.3m sales @ $70 (Game is literally still basically price atm) Your 'but but bundles' stupidity....do you think they are giving it for free? PS5 Slim: $499.99 PS5 Slim SM2 Bundle: $559.99 So they are selling SM2 for $60 instead of $70 if you get the bundle. Literally a saving of $10. They sold 2.5m day 1 at $70 So again your numbers... 3m @ $60 (from the bundle) is $180m, on top of the 2.5m @ $70 which is $175m. So they're already in profit (over 300m in sales) .....and you've only accounted for half their sales Enjoy continuing to be stupid Lmfao, gtfo of here. That bundle was $500 within weeks of the game releasing. Also it's not $70, they take about a 37% hit at retail from logistics, manufacturing and cut to retailers. You're an idiot. Edited September 4 by DynamiteCop 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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