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I really get the sense that MS is now starting to take PC gaming seriously


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-They have the feedback "idea drive" where they are actively engaging the community to suggest ideas and things for them to implement and improve gaming on PC (People are asking for all sorts of stuff, and they are responding and in some cases directly confirming that they are working on things)

-Game Bar (improvements to functionality, the ability for an API so 3rd party widgets can be made and run)

-Improved game runtime environment (based on user preference dynamically halting processes not required for the game to provide maximum performance, improving threading so that no outside processes might interfere)

-Dropping UWP and recommitting to Win32 (Lynux is gonna laugh at me for this one)

-Opening up their technologies and publishing their specs and documentation online (important information which developers never had access to before)

-Bringing and committing their games to Steam as well as other stores at a later date

 

And now with the newest Win 10 May update (1903) they have added OS Variable Refresh Rate for those who have VRR monitors and the latest drivers that support WDDM 2.6.

 

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/os-variable-refresh-rate/

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This new toggle enables VRR support for DX11 full-screen games that did not support VRR natively, so these games can now benefit from your VRR hardware.

 

Another thing they are working on, and people are obviously asking for, is better HDR implementation which either automatically detects games which need the OS to switch to HDR mode to do so, or allows the user to add games which don't automatically switch the OS to HDR mode to a list which will make it do so when launched.  Kind of like how you can make specific profiles for games in display driver control panels.  HDR support is going to get much better in future builds of Windows.

 

It's been years and years since we've seen anything like this from MS regarding PC gaming.  More shit will be revealed at E3 as well.  It's taking Phil a while, but we're starting to see results imo.

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If you look back on it, Xbox did own the Hermits, in the sense that it took MS from looking at how to improve PC gaming (at a time when piracy was rampant) to trying to shoehorn their way into the console market. Thanks to the advent and rise of internet speeds, computational power, teh cloud, and importantly enough, a robust digital library system, that games have not only returned to the PC, but now it's the exception (and mostly this is 1st party Ninty and Sony titles) that the game won't end up on PC.

 

It's about time, that MS really looked into developing this market, because no matter which way gaming goes, it appears that the Personal Computer (for gaming purposes) is not going away as it looked like it might have in the early Aughts.

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Just now, Teh_Diplomat said:

If you look back on it, Xbox did own the Hermits, in the sense that it took MS from looking at how to improve PC gaming (at a time when piracy was rampant) to trying to shoehorn their way into the console market. Thanks to the advent and rise of internet speeds, computational power, teh cloud, and importantly enough, a robust digital library system, that games have not only returned to the PC, but now it's the exception (and mostly this is 1st party Ninty and Sony titles) that the game won't end up on PC.

 

It's about time, that MS really looked into developing this market, because no matter which way gaming goes, it appears that the Personal Computer (for gaming purposes) is not going away as it looked like it might have in the early Aughts.

The Xbox 360 fucked them up, before that they were fine. They hit a point of success with it where they just simply abandoned PC, it's come full circle back to where they were and even better IMO. 

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7 minutes ago, Teh_Diplomat said:

If you look back on it, Xbox did own the Hermits, in the sense that it took MS from looking at how to improve PC gaming (at a time when piracy was rampant) to trying to shoehorn their way into the console market. Thanks to the advent and rise of internet speeds, computational power, teh cloud, and importantly enough, a robust digital library system, that games have not only returned to the PC, but now it's the exception (and mostly this is 1st party Ninty and Sony titles) that the game won't end up on PC.

 

It's about time, that MS really looked into developing this market, because no matter which way gaming goes, it appears that the Personal Computer (for gaming purposes) is not going away as it looked like it might have in the early Aughts.

MS was already in the office.. they wanted to be in every living room as well.  They focused on that and essentially let PC gaming fall to the wayside.. trying to separate the two.  Valve came in and flipped the table, and PC started thriving. 

 

This was another instance of them not taking advantage of an entire market they had on lock.

 

It IS good to see them bringing them both together, and pushing gaming forward in the right way now.  Better late than never.  They've given up trying to push their own standards, and instead are working with others to improve and build upon the foundation already there.  That's the right way.

 

They really could be successful on the PC side.  They could bring HUGE amounts of revenue in by natively supporting and creating experiences around the PC.  PC gamers spend money like no others...  They also commit themselves to games like no others.  Literally decades lol.

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Just now, DynamiteCop! said:

This is true, they're cheap, never pay full price and wait sometimes years to get a game when it's bottomed out enough.

 

:martin:

lmao.. that's not what I meant.

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Nadella was the best thing that ever happened to MS.  Dude has the right vision for the company, and he's successfully getting all the working parts moving in the same direction to further that vision.

 

He's making the right bets.

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20 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said:

The Xbox 360 fucked them up, before that they were fine. They hit a point of success with it where they just simply abandoned PC, it's come full circle back to where they were and even better IMO. 

 

19 minutes ago, Remij_ said:

MS was already in the office.. they wanted to be in every living room as well.  They focused on that and essentially let PC gaming fall to the wayside.. trying to separate the two.  Valve came in and flipped the table, and PC started thriving. 

 

This was another instance of them not taking advantage of an entire market they had on lock.

 

It IS good to see them bringing them both together, and pushing gaming forward in the right way.

Both points here are valid, as you both touched on where they thought they could go, or where their dominance was laid.

 

The 360 gave them an impression that they really could compete with Sony and Ninty who at this point had 20 and 30 years, respectively of establishment in the gamer's eye. But let's be honest, this generation has done them no favour they've lost face with gamers, and now have had to re-evaluate their (last place) position and where to go from here.

 

At the same time, their philosophy towards the Personal Computer was that it was about selling operating licenses, and MS Office Suite to corporations. Well, along comes this relatively small developer. Remember, at that time, Valve didn't even publish their own games it was Sierra Interactive that published Half-Life - after several failed attempts with other Publishers to get a deal; and then later came out with this online suite and library where you could purchase games and install them and they were assigned to your own account.

 

Fast forward to today, and there's a handful of online libraries (We know DC's position on this) much like there is with streaming services. I'll theorize right now that DC is partially right, in several years we'll see more & more of these services, but it will become conglomerated and merged. Much like how I think all these streaming services are battling it out to see who gets to be Google of Streaming Media.

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Just announced..

 

MS announces the Xbox App is being retooled as an Xbox Console companion app.. and that a new native to PC Xbox app is coming soon.

 

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The change has already happened and my Xbox App is already changed over.  The new experience will probably revealed at E3 or the PC gamer show.

 

Apparently the new desktop experience is code named "Garrison" which Brad Sams alluded to before.

 

:bow: 

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2 hours ago, jehurey said:

Now its "Nadellas's vision"

 

Yeah. Here's a clip of how that conversation for his "vision" went down with Phil Spencer

 

 

Well I was talking about Microsoft's vision as a whole... so yes... obviously Nadella's vision. :| 

 

You're entirely wrong about Phil man.. dude has been the driving force of fixing Xbox's colossal fuck up.  We're starting to see the fruits :blessed: 

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6 minutes ago, Remij_ said:

Well I was talking about Microsoft's vision as a whole... so yes... obviously Nadella's vision. :| 

 

You're entirely wrong about Phil man.. dude has been the driving force of fixing Xbox's colossal fuck up.  We're starting to see the fruits :blessed: 

What's weirder about Jerry's post is under Spencer Xbox has become its own division. Under Myerson it was merged with several others...

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1 minute ago, Team 2019 said:

Releasing on Steam and other stores is a bold move. I think it will pay off big time instead of wall gardening everything on their own store.

It's absolutely the right move.  Games like Gears 5 and Halo Infinite will do very well there.  Both of those franchises alone should do multiple millions together on PC... whereas on the Windows Store they would have done maybe hundreds of thousands.

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2 hours ago, DynamiteCop! said:

What's weirder about Jerry's post is under Spencer Xbox has become its own division. Under Myerson it was merged with several others...

Its become its own PUBLISHING division. LOL

 

Its literally going to be running on hardware manufactured and supervised under the Azure team.  That's merging the Xbox hardware division.

 

Phil Spencer will never oversee a new Xbox design for CONSUMER HARDWARE as long as he's employed at Microsoft.  It ended with Scarlett and Anaconda.

 

Maybe he might get to work on a new controller refresh. lol

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Phil is piggybacking on the Azure team's success and utilising the company's competitive edge. Plus  I'm sure the CEO is happy with this direction. Puts less pressure on Phil and probably gives him an internal division negotiation position. I don't think he can get the division budget increase without at least increasing long term division growth with XCloud and PC integration.

 

There is even a leak suggesting he got a hardware budget increase for XBox next gen by selling it as a universal Cloud solution.

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It's quite bullshit how you guys try to take Phil's accomplishments away from him.

 

Phil is running Xbox... and HE'S the one leading Xbox into the direction that it's going by leveraging MS' core strengths.

 

Yall are trippin so hard :mj: 

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2 minutes ago, Remij_ said:

It's quite bullshit how you guys try to take Phil's accomplishments away from him.

 

Phil is running Xbox... and HE'S the one leading Xbox into the direction that it's going by leveraging MS' core strengths.

 

Yall are trippin so hard :mj: 

Phil needs to provide growth profit grow asap and long term potential as least in form of a promise and vision. It's objective businesses reality.

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