Remij 4,690 Posted June 10, 2019 Author Share Posted June 10, 2019 LMAO AMD 50th anniversary edition GPU bait Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,119 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 16C/32T incoming. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,119 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 $749 is a good price for 16C/32T. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,690 Posted June 10, 2019 Author Share Posted June 10, 2019 Hmm.. I wanna see gaming comparisons between the 12 core and the 16 core. Either way IntelHBR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,119 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Well, it was about as good as E3 2019 has been so far this year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Mother Fucker 26 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 I watched it LIVE. Pretty good stuff to upgrade to if you need of new hardware. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,690 Posted June 10, 2019 Author Share Posted June 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, lynux3 said: Well, it was about as good as E3 2019 has been so far this year. Just terrible all around. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Mother Fucker 26 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 I was really hoping Cyberpunk 2077 came out before this year was over. I guess MK11 will go down as the game to own for 2019. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,690 Posted June 10, 2019 Author Share Posted June 10, 2019 Wider vector units as rumored. Navi at the high end could be pretty good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,119 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Yeah, it doesn't look bad, but this Frankenstein GCN/Navi they're pushing right now sucks. It leads me to believe that the next-gen PlayStation and Project Scarlett are actually based on the real RDNA... seeing that they're both going to have ray-tracing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,690 Posted June 10, 2019 Author Share Posted June 10, 2019 1 minute ago, lynux3 said: Yeah, it doesn't look bad, but this Frankenstein GCN/Navi they're pushing right now sucks. It leads me to believe that the next-gen PlayStation and Project Scarlett are actually based on the real RDNA... seeing that they're both going to have ray-tracing. Yea seems that way. It's kind of disappointing for them to do it this way.. but they presumably need something out for this year.. so they're shoving this out to tide people over till spring/summer next year. This and Radeon 7 is meant to supply the mid and high range segments. This unfortunately shows that they are quite behind Nvidia still, and that their "real" next gen parts are likely dependent on technologies Sony and MS have collaborated with them on. It's just messy.. compared to their crystal clear strategy with their CPUs. Oh well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,119 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Remij_ said: Yea seems that way. It's kind of disappointing for them to do it this way.. but they presumably need something out for this year.. so they're shoving this out to tide people over till spring/summer next year. This and Radeon 7 is meant to supply the mid and high range segments. This unfortunately shows that they are quite behind Nvidia still, and that their "real" next gen parts are likely dependent on technologies Sony and MS have collaborated with them on. It's just messy.. compared to their crystal clear strategy with their CPUs. Oh well. It definitely lends credit to the rumor that the engineers were ready to push this thing out as soon as possible to work on the all-new RDNA. This filler Navi 12 isn't a big performer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,690 Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 Anandtech's article is up about the Zen 2 architecture. Good shit. https://www.anandtech.com/show/14525/amd-zen-2-microarchitecture-analysis-ryzen-3000-and-epyc-rome Some interesting slides. Also it appears that the new Win10 update has some good optimizations (finally) for AMD Zen processors. Still REALLY sucks they don't support AVX512.. though. That would have made a HUGE difference in some applications. AMD CPUs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,087 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 I'm curious if the CPU in these new consoles is a legit desktop variant this time, I know it's in an APU but in terms of what it is I'm curious if it's desktop level instead of a mobile CPU again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,119 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: I'm curious if the CPU in these new consoles is a legit desktop variant this time, I know it's in an APU but in terms of what it is I'm curious if it's desktop level instead of a mobile CPU again. It certainly looks like it, albeit, at a lower clock. Even AMD's mobile CPUs aren't on Zen 2 yet, they're pushing them out on Zen+. I guess one way to see is by comparing a Zen+ desktop CPU with a Zen+ laptop CPU. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,690 Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 20 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: I'm curious if the CPU in these new consoles is a legit desktop variant this time, I know it's in an APU but in terms of what it is I'm curious if it's desktop level instead of a mobile CPU again. I think they'll be the full desktop core with further optimizations which can be granted by a closed box system like a console. Some people were talking about the fact that since Zen 2 doesn't support AVX512 instructions on the desktop side, they could potentially do optimizations to the memory subsystem to help mitigate that on consoles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,690 Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 Here we go. This gives us a good glimpse at what their solution will be for consoles. The consoles will probably have the Next Gen RDNA solution, which by itself still seems pretty limited. It seems pretty much like what I said it would be. They will utilize cloud computing to accelerate ray-tracing which doesn't involve quickly changing dynamic elements. Essentially the slow changing elements which update at bigger intervals (GI and shadows) and thus can be computed more slowly and with more latency without being noticeable. The player would never be able to tell the difference and it would be able to compute much more accurate and nicer bounce lighting and shadows from the cloud, while the local GPU could handle things like dynamic lighting on character models and material shading. I'm sure some of the devs are going to simply utilize what the hardware can do, and others will attempt to use the cloud as well. Should be interesting to see the different solutions devs choose and how they implement them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Mother Fucker 26 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) Those RX 5700/5700XT GPUs ought to be big jump for RX 570 and RX580 owners. Although they priced way higher. Thanks nvidia. Edited June 11, 2019 by The Mother Fucker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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