John Hopkins study found lockdowns had very little if any positive effect or COVID mortality

[Literal Nazi Rudolf Hess 278]

https://khn.org/morning-breakout/lockdowns-had-little-to-no-benefit-on-public-health-analysis-finds/

 

https://sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/files/2022/01/A-Literature-Review-and-Meta-Analysis-of-the-Effects-of-Lockdowns-on-COVID-19-Mortality.pdf

Edited February 2, 2022 by Literal Nazi Rudolf Hess

[Literal Nazi Rudolf Hess 278]

Well that was a fun 2 years

[Cooke 2,030]

20 minutes ago, Literal Nazi Rudolf Hess said:

Well that was a fun 2 years

Yeah well you didn't have to live in Canada all that time. Even now fully vaccinated could JUST go back to their gyms. Some colleges and universities are still doing online "learning".. Online is no substitute for in person. And the loss of those years for social interaction. The amount of small business that closed here is just crazy. Meanwhile overdose deaths dwarfed covid deaths and no one gave a shit. 

Edited February 2, 2022 by Cooke

[Mr. Impossible 411]

A study by an economics professor who constantly whines about the monetary affects of lockdowns should be interesting. I admit I skimmed and my brain isn't in a place to parse that data atm. Did either of you cucks read any of it or just circle jerking off of the title? 

[Cooke 2,030]

7 hours ago, Mr. Impossible said:

A study by an economics professor who constantly whines about the monetary affects of lockdowns should be interesting. I admit I skimmed and my brain isn't in a place to parse that data atm. Did either of you cucks read any of it or just circle jerking off of the title? 

I can't seem to find any sites that reported on this that you wohld deem acceptable 

 

We find no evidence that lockdowns, school closures, border closures, and limiting gatherings have had a noticeable effect on COVID-19 mortality,” reads the paper , which is based on a review of 34 pre-existing COVID-19 studies.

 

'Given the “devastating effects” that lockdowns have caused, the authors recommended they be “rejected out of hand as a pandemic policy instrument.”

In both Europe and the United States, researchers found that a lockdown could only be expected to bring down mortality rates by 0.2 per cent “as compared to a COVID-19 policy based solely on recommendations.” For context, 0.2 per cent of total Canadian COVID-19 fatalities thus far is equal to about 70 people.

The impact of border closures was found to be even less effective, with death rates only going down about 0.1 per cent.

 

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/johns-hopkins-university-study-covid-19-lockdowns

 

 

[Mr. Impossible 411]

3 hours ago, Cooke said:

I can't seem to find any sites that reported on this that you wohld deem acceptable 

 

We find no evidence that lockdowns, school closures, border closures, and limiting gatherings have had a noticeable effect on COVID-19 mortality,” reads the paper , which is based on a review of 34 pre-existing COVID-19 studies.

 

'Given the “devastating effects” that lockdowns have caused, the authors recommended they be “rejected out of hand as a pandemic policy instrument.”

In both Europe and the United States, researchers found that a lockdown could only be expected to bring down mortality rates by 0.2 per cent “as compared to a COVID-19 policy based solely on recommendations.” For context, 0.2 per cent of total Canadian COVID-19 fatalities thus far is equal to about 70 people.

The impact of border closures was found to be even less effective, with death rates only going down about 0.1 per cent.

 

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/johns-hopkins-university-study-covid-19-lockdowns

 

 

Yeah, that's just them saying what the study says. 

[Mr. House 3,371]

Pretty hard to quantify how effective it was, especially when the statistics are dubious in many cases, like all the people who died with Covid who are now in the statistics of the total death toll from Covid. 

 

But the psychological and economic damage, especially to the new generation of kids and small businesses shutting down is easy to see. Also, we can't ignore the suicide rates going up in just about every country that practiced lockdowns worldwide.

 

 

[Literal Nazi Rudolf Hess 278]

On 2022-02-06 at 6:51 AM, Ramza said:

Pretty hard to quantify how effective it was, especially when the statistics are dubious in many cases, like all the people who died with Covid who are now in the statistics of the total death toll from Covid. 

 

But the psychological and economic damage, especially to the new generation of kids and small businesses shutting down is easy to see. Also, we can't ignore the suicide rates going up in just about every country that practiced lockdowns worldwide.

 

 

You can quantify it if you compare to another country with a modern healthcare system that didn't do lockdowns, like Sweden. Everyone thought Sweden would collapse and would have hundreds of thousands of deaths but they ended up in the bottom quarter for deaths per 100k for western countries.

 

They did a more focused approach at protecting the vulnerable rather than a blanket approach even after knowing who COVID kills on average. 

Edited February 7, 2022 by Literal Nazi Rudolf Hess

[Mr. Impossible 411]

2 hours ago, Literal Nazi Rudolf Hess said:

You can quantify it if you compare to another country with a modern healthcare system that didn't do lockdowns, like Sweden. Everyone thought Sweden would collapse and would have hundreds of thousands of deaths but they ended up in the bottom quarter for deaths per 100k for western countries.

 

They did a more focused approach at protecting the vulnerable rather than a blanket approach even after knowing who COVID kills on average. 

Such as? 

[Literal Nazi Rudolf Hess 278]

Just now, Mr. Impossible said:

Such as? 

Such as what?

[Cooke 2,030]

 

See its this kind of stuff that really pisses me off. It was very rarely about health. It was about optics and politics. 

[jehurey 3,241]

Lockdowns are designed to prevent spread.

 

What exactly is being claimed here? That if you got covid, if you were to lockdown, somehow the effects of the virus would be reduced BY locking down?

 

Lockdowns reduce spread.

 

That isn't debunked in the slightest.

[Cooke 2,030]

23 minutes ago, jehurey said:

Lockdowns are designed to prevent spread.

 

What exactly is being claimed here? That if you got covid, if you were to lockdown, somehow the effects of the virus would be reduced BY locking down?

 

Lockdowns reduce spread.

 

That isn't debunked in the slightest.

Let's not play dumb here. 

 

It's an airborne virus. Barring a full and complete lockdown where no one leaves their home for weeks with zero contact of anyone else, doing a half assed lockdown has no effect. If people are still going to work, wearing useless cloth masks, taking a vaccine that doesn't stop the spread, etc etc. It's not going to work. An airborne virus doesn't give a shit about policies and politics. It's going to do what it's going to do, and that's spread until everyone one on earth becomes infected at some point. 

 

The best option was to focus protection on the most vulnerable, vaccinate them first, limit contact and let healthy people go on with their lives. We knew very early who covid was killing.. Yet as the pandemic dragged on more and more attention was focused on children, the absolute least vulnerable. Now they've had their lives and education fucked for over 2 years. Not seeing faces, online learning, stunted development etc. We did not follow the science, we followed paranoia, fear and populists policies. 

[jehurey 3,241]

1 hour ago, Cooke said:

Let's not play dumb here. 

 

It's an airborne virus. Barring a full and complete lockdown where no one leaves their home for weeks with zero contact of anyone else, doing a half assed lockdown has no effect.

right, which is why it requires a non half-assed lockdown.

 

who exactly was proposing a half-assed lockdown?

 

No actual epidemiologist expert. Right?

[Cooke 2,030]

6 hours ago, jehurey said:

right, which is why it requires a non half-assed lockdown.

 

who exactly was proposing a half-assed lockdown?

 

No actual epidemiologist expert. Right?

A half assed lockdown is what we did dude. 

[Cooke 2,030]

 

 

Dr John Campbell 

 

John L. Campbell is a British YouTuber, retired nurse educator and author of nursing textbooks who has posted a number of widely-viewed YouTube videos on his Dr. John Campbell channel commenting on the COVID-19 pandemic. In August 2020, Campbell's channel was referred to by UNICEF's regional office for Europe and Central Asia as good example of expert engagement with social media. By January 2022, his videos had been viewed more than 429 million times.

 

Education	University of Bolton (PhD) University of Lancaster MSc) Open University (BSc)

Edited February 8, 2022 by Cooke

[Mr. Impossible 411]

4 hours ago, Cooke said:

A half assed lockdown is what we did dude. 

I think his point is that nearly half of the country fought tooth and nail against it from day one. 

[jehurey 3,241]

6 hours ago, Cooke said:

A half assed lockdown is what we did dude. 

Read my post again.

[Cooke 2,030]

The covid theatre performances sure we're amusing 

 

 

😂

[jehurey 3,241]

52 minutes ago, Cooke said:

The covid theatre performances sure we're amusing 

 

 

😂

are you derailing your own thread, at this point.

 

so, you're entire supposed theory about a johns hopkins report..........that's all over with?

 

i love how you states a john hopkins report, but list two links that are not john hopkins, and the first one actually quotes something else but the headline doesn't match the actual quote.