Activision says putting their games on Xbox Game Pass or other subscription services would "lead to brand dilution & cannibalization of sales" (TLHBFR)

[FIREPOWER 729]

1 minute ago, Remij said:

I'm not saying his logic is wrong  

 

Of course you have to pay more for exclusivity if you have a smaller market share.

 

My entire point is that MS has maintained the same stance.... which adds to their argument that it's not essential.  If MS had continued and paid an exuberant amount of money to keep the deal... Sony could point to that and say look... see how important COD is to the platform...

 

 

Can you understand that?  

COD isn't "essential" but they are spending $69 billion to acquire it and other games for GP?

 

Make this make sense. I'm not following your logic.

 

No one with an ounce of brain matter believes MS is paying all this money for Candy Crush and Overwatch 2 alone. It's painfully obvious that a big part of the reason they want ABK is for COD to be in GamePass on day one. This "COD isn't essential to the industry" bullshit they are saying is for the regulators and even the regulators aren't buying it hence the huge resistance we are seeing to the deal going through from the FTC and CMA.

[jehurey 3,238]

1 minute ago, Remij said:

 

Because that's what Sony is crying about.  MS is even offering the game on their console for the next 10 years guaranteed..  

 

This deal isn't about taking COD away from PS babies  

Nope, that's not going to work, sweetie.

 

The regulators are going to want to know why they're paying $70 billion in the first place.

 

They would've zero'd in on Call of Duty, no matter what.

[jehurey 3,238]

Just now, FIREPOWER said:

COD isn't "essential" but they are spending $69 billion to acquire it and other games for GP?

 

Make this make sense. I'm not following your logic.

 

No one with an ounce of brain matter believes MS is paying all this money for Candy Crush and Overwatch 2 alone. It's painfully obvious that a big part of the reason they want ABK is for COD to be in GamePass on day one. This "COD isn't essential to the industry" bullshit they are saying is for the regulators and even the regulators aren't buying it hence the huge resistance we are seeing to the deal going through from the FTC and CMA.

can you believe somebody on this forum actually attempted this argument?

 

oh man...............this would make the fanboys at neogaf do:

[Remij 4,682]

2 minutes ago, jehurey said:

Nope, that's not going to work, sweetie.

 

The regulators are going to want to know why they're paying $70 billion in the first place.

 

They would've zero'd in on Call of Duty, no matter what.

They do know why.  And it's quite clearly not to make COD exclusive  

[jehurey 3,238]

2 minutes ago, Remij said:

LMAO this idiot is arguing that regulators job should be ensuring that Sony doesn't get hurt by MS buying COD

The regulators are not responsible for looking at other market conditions.

 

They are just looking at the this deal.

 

Once again............you gonna have a HARD TIME trying to convince us why a $70 billion dollar deal isn't something worth noticing.

[Remij 4,682]

3 minutes ago, FIREPOWER said:

COD isn't "essential" but they are spending $69 billion to acquire it and other games for GP?

 

Make this make sense. I'm not following your logic.

 

No one with an ounce of brain matter believes MS is paying all this money for Candy Crush and Overwatch 2 alone. It's painfully obvious that a big part of the reason they want ABK is for COD to be in GamePass on day one. This "COD isn't essential to the industry" bullshit they are saying is for the regulators and even the regulators aren't buying it hence the huge resistance we are seeing to the deal going through from the FTC and CMA.

It's not the only focus of the deal dummy...  It is to Sony... because that's the part of the deal that mostly affects them... and the ONE thing they can actually make a case against..

 

And LOL nobody said COD wasn't important... jesus fucking christ you guys are complete clowns.  

[Remij 4,682]

1 minute ago, jehurey said:

The regulators are not responsible for looking at other market conditions.

 

They are just looking at the this deal.

 

Once again............you gonna have a HARD TIME trying to convince us why a $70 billion dollar deal isn't something worth noticing.

Right, they're not responsible for keeping Sony in the #1 position  

[jehurey 3,238]

Just now, Remij said:

They do know why.  And it's quite clearly not to make COD exclusive  

Nope, the fact that Phil Spencer already started offering "x amount of years".........."ok we increase it to x amount of years."

 

Is clearly a sign that Microsoft is aware that Call of Duty exclsuivity is a valuable thing in the future.

 

The regulators are here to determine competitiveness in the market TODAY........................AND.................in the future, sweetheart.

 

In fact, Phil Spencers immediate negotiating regarding Call of Duty might have brought more attention to it for regulators.

[FIREPOWER 729]

Just now, jehurey said:

can you believe somebody on this forum actually attempted this argument?

 

oh man...............this would make the fanboys at neogaf do:

I can't believe he typed that and actually believes it. No one with an ounce of common sense believes Microsoft's bullshit.

 

Everyone and their grandma can see exactly what MS is doing and it's the reason why the top news in the industry right now centers around this deal and what it means for COD's exclusivity. It's the meat and potatoes of the deal. What happens to COD after this deal goes through is what will make or break this deal.

 

Sony doesn't give two shits about Candy Crush and neither does MS. Candy Crush doesn't give them any leverage in their fight with Apple or Google. Apple and Google will still completely crush them in the mobile space regardless of whether they get Candy Crush or not. This deal is almost exclusively for COD and the affect COD will have on their subscription service in the console space.

[jehurey 3,238]

Just now, Remij said:

Right, they're not responsible for keeping Sony in the #1 position  

But Microsoft just make it very clear that Call of Duty was responsible for Playstation being immensely successful.

 

Activision just corroboted yet.

 

And they can clearly see that Xbox was hurt by it..............therefore ALSO CORROBORATING that theory.

 

And ONCE AGAIN..................they clearly see Microsoft willing to pay $70 billion dollars for it years after they turned Activision away.

 

I love how your entire argument hinges on you pretending to play stupid.

[Remij 4,682]

Just now, jehurey said:

Nope, the fact that Phil Spencer already started offering "x amount of years".........."ok we increase it to x amount of years."

 

Is clearly a sign that Microsoft is aware that Call of Duty exclsuivity is a valuable thing in the future.

 

The regulators are here to determine competitiveness in the market TODAY........................AND.................in the future, sweetheart.

 

In fact, Phil Spencers immediate negotiating regarding Call of Duty might have brought more attention to it for regulators.

No shit it has value  

 

Sony competed back then when MS had that COD value........ and they grew into what they are today.....

 

Explain that sweetie  

[Remij 4,682]

1 minute ago, FIREPOWER said:

I can't believe he typed that and actually believes it. No one with an ounce of common sense believes Microsoft's bullshit.

 

Everyone and their grandma can see exactly what MS is doing and it's the reason why the top news in the industry right now centers around this deal and what it means for COD's exclusivity. It's the meat and potatoes of the deal. What happens to COD after this deal goes through is what will make or break this deal.

 

Sony doesn't give two shits about Candy Crush and neither does MS. Candy Crush doesn't give them any leverage in their fight with Apple or Google. Apple and Google will still completely crush them in the mobile space regardless of whether they get Candy Crush or not. This deal is almost exclusively for COD and the affect COD will have on their subscription service in the console space.

Spoken like a true retard  

[Remij 4,682]

1 minute ago, jehurey said:

But Microsoft just make it very clear that Call of Duty was responsible for Playstation being immensely successful.

 

Activision just corroboted yet.

 

And they can clearly see that Xbox was hurt by it..............therefore ALSO CORROBORATING that theory.

 

And ONCE AGAIN..................they clearly see Microsoft willing to pay $70 billion dollars for it years after they turned Activision away.

 

I love how your entire argument hinges on you pretending to play stupid.

They also made it clear that they can be successful without it  

 

And you keep saying "it".... when they aren't just buying COD, idiot.  

[jehurey 3,238]

1 minute ago, Remij said:

No shit it has value  

 

Sony competed back then when MS had that COD value........ and they grew into what they are today.....

 

Explain that sweetie  

You just proved that Microsoft controlling and potentially pulling COD away from Playstation would greatly affect Playstation.

 

Congratulations for making Jim Ryan's argument

[Remij 4,682]

Just now, jehurey said:

You just proved that Microsoft controlling and potentially pulling COD away from Playstation would greatly affect Playstation.

 

Congratulations for making Jim Ryan's argument

IT IS SUPPOSED TO AFFECT PLAYSTATION YOU FUCKING IDIOT  

 

It's not regulators jobs to ensure that nobody can do anything that affects playstation negatively... THAT would be anti competitive....   

 

It's to ensure that they can still compete...... and Sony did back then... and MS has now  

 

 

Jesus christ  

[jehurey 3,238]

1 minute ago, Remij said:

Spoken like a true retard  

In other words...............you don't have an explaination, and are just getting angry because we're point out how incredibly flawed and full of shit your argument is.

 

Right?

Just now, Remij said:

They also made it clear that they can be successful without it  

 

And you keep saying "it".... when they aren't just buying COD, idiot.  

No they didn't make that clear.

 

Because since Phil Spencer has already negotiated X amount of years for Call of Duty.............he's clearly saying that HE WILL MAKE IT EXCLUSIVE at the first opportunity that he can.

 

In other words...........he's trying to make a concession and offer something that regulators would've determined and forced Microsoft to do.

 

In other words, Phil Spencer is making is clear that the deal would require government regulation to begin with the moment he immediately tried to offer this.

 

Which contradicts your entire narrative.

 

You're basically trying to talk out of both sides of your mouth, like Phil.

[FIREPOWER 729]

23 minutes ago, Remij said:

Spoken like a true retard  

Ironic.

 

He has nothing to fight back against the facts I just typed so his turning to childish insults.

 

 Notice how I didn't need to resort to insulting you directly to get my point across that you're a retard?

 

 

Your arguments are stupid and childish. Believing every word that comes out of a trillion dollar corporation's mouth even though their actions say otherwise. No one but brain dead lemmings like you believes a word that comes out of Phil's mouth. Not even Phil believes the horse shit coming out of his mouth. It's the reason why the FTC and all major regulators are either moving to sue MS for the deal or their putting the deal under further scrutiny. You can keep burying your head in Phil's asshole and eating whatever bullshit he spews but no one is believing MS when they say COD isn't essential especially when they just dropped $69 Billion to take it away from the Playstation platform.

Edited November 28, 2022 by FIREPOWER

[jehurey 3,238]

1 minute ago, Remij said:

IT IS SUPPOSED TO AFFECT PLAYSTATION YOU FUCKING IDIOT  

 

It's not regulators jobs to ensure that nobody can do anything that affects playstation negatively...

yeah, it is their job.

 

because its not about Playstation...............its about Playstation consumers.

 

which make up a huge bulk of the consumers in the video game market.

 

I love how all I have to do.............is point out the SMAAAAAAAAAAALL detail that you keep leaving out.

 

You're so obvious. Its so obvious what your tactic is, I can easily pop that balloon.

[Remij 4,682]

Just now, jehurey said:

In other words...............you don't have an explaination, and are just getting angry because we're point out how incredibly flawed and full of shit your argument is.

 

Right?

No they didn't make that clear.

 

Because since Phil Spencer has already negotiated X amount of years for Call of Duty.............he's clearly saying that HE WILL MAKE IT EXCLUSIVE at the first opportunity that he can.

 

In other words...........he's trying to make a concession and offer something that regulators would've determined and forced Microsoft to do.

 

In other words, Phil Spencer is making is clear that the deal would require government regulation to begin with the moment he immediately tried to offer this.

 

Which contradicts your entire narrative.

 

You're basically trying to talk out of both sides of your mouth, like Phil.

 

Jesus christ... this guy is literally proving MS' case for them.  Regulators aren't there to ensure that Sony remains #1...   

[jehurey 3,238]

Just now, FIREPOWER said:

Ironic.

 

He has nothing to fight back against the facts I just typed so his turning to childish insults.

 

 Notice how I didn't need to resort to insulting to get my point across that you're a retard?

 

 

Your arguments are stupid and childish. Believing every word that comes out of a trillion dollar corporation's mouth even though their action's say otherwise. No one but brain dead lemmings like you believes a word that comes out of Phil's mouth. Not even Phil believes the horse shit coming out of his mouth. It's the reason why the FTC and all major regulators are either moving to sue MS for the deal or their putting the deal under further scrutiny. You can keep burying your head in Phil's asshole and eating whatever bullshit he spews but no one is believing MS when they say COD isn't essential especially when they just dropped $69 Billion to take it away from the Playstation platform.

He's such a pathetic fanboy.

 

And a fakeboy, on top of that.