Cooke 2,041 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Can we stop with the massive wind farms that destroy millions of acres of land and are even worse on the water? Nuclear is safe, clean and could easily solve the energy crisis. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hot Sauce 2,743 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Can you provide some evidence of wind farms being the cause of this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,288 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 19 hours ago, Cooke said: Can we stop with the massive wind farms that destroy millions of acres of land and are even worse on the water? Nuclear is safe, clean and could easily solve the energy crisis. 15 hours ago, Hot Sauce said: Can you provide some evidence of wind farms being the cause of this? I second this motion of Cooke providing some actual evidence of wind farms being the cause of this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cooke 2,041 Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Goukosan said: I second this motion of Cooke providing some actual evidence of wind farms being the cause of this. It's new reporting and the full documentary is coming soon. It's interesting what a coordinated effort there is to try and claim whales are no longer immensley sensitive to sound in the water. We've known for decades that large boat propellor noise is detrimental to whales. What do you think wind turbines are? Have you ever been near one? In the water they are much louder. https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/26/world/whales-noise-pollution-anti-collision-c2e-spc-intl-scn/index.html Edited August 15, 2023 by Cooke Quote Link to post Share on other sites
z,warrior 155 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 A documentary is not evidence… There have been claims that offshore wind projects are responsible for the deaths of whales along the east coast of the United States, but some scientists say there is no evidence to support those claims1234. The Marine Mammal Commission, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and the U.S. Bureau of Ocean Energy Management have all rejected a link between the deaths and the offshore wind energy industry2. One theory is that sonar-based surveys involved with placing the turbines may be interfering with the whales’ sonar and disorienting the creatures5. Some politicians and pundits have called for a pause in offshore wind development, but there is no evidence to support claims that wind development has anything to do with the whales washing up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
z,warrior 155 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Cooke said: It's new reporting and the full documentary is coming soon. It's interesting what a coordinated effort there is to try and claim whales are no longer immensley sensitive to sound in the water. We've known for decades that large boat propellor noise is detrimental to whales. What do you think wind turbines are? Have you ever been near one? In the water they are much louder. https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/26/world/whales-noise-pollution-anti-collision-c2e-spc-intl-scn/index.html Also from CNN 🤗 https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/20/us/whale-deaths-offshore-wind-climate/index.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cooke 2,041 Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, z,warrior said: Also from CNN 🤗 https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/20/us/whale-deaths-offshore-wind-climate/index.html I know. But do you think there might be a slight ulterior motive? Wind power is seen as green and planet saving. Dead whales goes against that narrative so they try to minimize it. It's weird how so many news outlets basically wrote the exact same article at almost the exact same time. It's like there's some sort of coordinated effort to silence it. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/feb/20/us-protesters-wind-turbines-whale-deaths-evidence https://www.theverge.com/2023/5/11/23718523/whale-beachings-east-coast-offshore-wind-shipping https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2023/03/15/fact-check-east-coast-whale-deaths-not-tied-offshore-wind-turbines/11434927002/ https://www.salon.com/2023/05/17/no-whales-arent-dying-from-wind-turbines--despite-what-the-right-wants-you-to-believe/ https://time.com/6254785/whale-deaths-offshore-wind-power/ https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/no-known-connections-between-wind-power-and-whale-deaths-feds/ Reminds me of when they said the vaccine was completely safe and stopped transmission all on que. Edited August 15, 2023 by Cooke Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,288 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 10 hours ago, z,warrior said: A documentary is not evidence… There have been claims that offshore wind projects are responsible for the deaths of whales along the east coast of the United States, but some scientists say there is no evidence to support those claims1234. The Marine Mammal Commission, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and the U.S. Bureau of Ocean Energy Management have all rejected a link between the deaths and the offshore wind energy industry2. One theory is that sonar-based surveys involved with placing the turbines may be interfering with the whales’ sonar and disorienting the creatures5. Some politicians and pundits have called for a pause in offshore wind development, but there is no evidence to support claims that wind development has anything to do with the whales washing up You have to excuse Cooke... He is not too smart. Using w documentary as evidence Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,288 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 9 hours ago, z,warrior said: Also from CNN 🤗 https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/20/us/whale-deaths-offshore-wind-climate/index.html Surprise Surprise... Cooke didn't know what he was talking about... Shocker!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hot Sauce 2,743 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 13 hours ago, Cooke said: It's new reporting and the full documentary is coming soon. So the evidence isn't out yet, but you're already convinced? 13 hours ago, Cooke said: It's interesting what a coordinated effort there is to try and claim whales are no longer immensley sensitive to sound in the water. We've known for decades that large boat propellor noise is detrimental to whales. What do you think wind turbines are? Have you ever been near one? In the water they are much louder. You do realize the criticism of wind farms is on the pre-construction sonar and the "pile driving" during construction, not the sound generated during operation, right? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cooke 2,041 Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Goukosan said: Surprise Surprise... Cooke didn't know what he was talking about... Shocker!!! Umm that's kinda what I'm talking about bro. Nearly identical articles from multiple outlets repeating the same thing verbatim all at the same time. No new reporting. Not actually providing evidence to counter the claim. Just saying "experts say this". Yeah experts are always right. It's like you haven't learnt anything during COVID. Experts are routinely wrong and routinely spout opinions to back certain narratives for financial incentives or to remain in the good graces of the establishment. Right now climate is the new COVID. Everyone must repeat the same talking points without evidence. It's just fucking dogma at this point. Edited August 15, 2023 by Cooke Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Impossible 431 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 4 hours ago, Cooke said: Umm that's kinda what I'm talking about bro. Nearly identical articles from multiple outlets repeating the same thing verbatim all at the same time. No new reporting. Not actually providing evidence to counter the claim. Just saying "experts say this". Yeah experts are always right. It's like you haven't learnt anything during COVID. Experts are routinely wrong and routinely spout opinions to back certain narratives for financial incentives or to remain in the good graces of the establishment. Right now climate is the new COVID. Everyone must repeat the same talking points without evidence. It's just fucking dogma at this point. lol You try so hard yet everyone still sees through your bullshit. You always want to counter what you think is establishment without really caring whether its true or not. Also see you dodging Hotsauce's last reply. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,288 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 20 hours ago, Cooke said: Umm that's kinda what I'm talking about bro. Nearly identical articles from multiple outlets repeating the same thing verbatim all at the same time. No new reporting. Not actually providing evidence to counter the claim. Just saying "experts say this". Yeah experts are always right. It's like you haven't learnt anything during COVID. Experts are routinely wrong and routinely spout opinions to back certain narratives for financial incentives or to remain in the good graces of the establishment. Right now climate is the new COVID. Everyone must repeat the same talking points without evidence. It's just fucking dogma at this point. Sooo you still didn't know what you were talking about as usual... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
z,warrior 155 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 On 2023-08-13 at 2:28 PM, Cooke said: Can we stop with the massive wind farms that destroy millions of acres of land and are even worse on the water? Nuclear is safe, clean and could easily solve the energy crisis. Hey Cooke, what are your thoughts on whale hunting in the Faroe Islands? Or do you not care since Fox News hasn’t told you to? 🤨 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whaling_in_the_Faroe_Islands Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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