Remij

1 minute ago, jehurey said:

Nope those are PSN stores that exist in those countries.

 

You determine if a PSN store "country you registered to" is applicable to your region.

 

I love how its so easy to destroy his arguments

 

That's not what I asked.

 

You asked whether the studio head can obtain information about what the publisher is requiring from consumers.

 

......................there's the Steam store page

 

 

Is he not capable of looking at the ONLY PC STORE PAGE for his own game for information?

 

That's a simple yes or no answer.

Nope.   I asked you why Sony isn't referring them to that page... or giving them any information on region related issues.

Because Sony knows they fucked up dumbass....  The game wasn't only sold on Steam store.  

If there's no problem, and people can just make accounts claiming they are from other countries/regions, then why doesn't Sony simply tell them, "tell the players to make their accounts using another region"?

Except.. they aren't doing that.  Because that breaks their TOS and they know it.  

2 minutes ago, FIREPOWER said:

Same reason Xbox isn’t available in so many countries. 
 

Yea this is the shit that’s so hilarious to see. An obvious lie being spread around by retards that none of these retards are bothering to verify 

Nope.  Nobody is saying that if you make an account lying about your country/region that they will ban you...

They're saying that if you do, you're breaking Sony's TOS.. and that they COULD ban you. 

Big difference. 

Regardless of what the players can or can't do.... Sony will literally be asking players to break their TOS to play this game in unsupported regions.  That's simply a fact... and that's why Sony hasn't told the developer what to do yet... and that's why they've literally stopped selling the game in all those countries...

You idiots REALLY think they would do that... if the solution was just "make a PSN account"  

1 minute ago, jehurey said:

so the studio doesn't know how to look at the steam store page of their very own game that they've developed??????????

 

 

 

 

holy shit.................this poor Port-Beggars brain has completely turned into mesh.

 

This bitch is getting hammered worse than Munguia was getting blasted by Canelo last night.

 

 

 

 

The studio doesn't make the store page sweetie.  Sony handles the publishing 😉 

And Sony KNOW THEY FUCKED UP  

5 minutes ago, jehurey said:

No, it isn't

 

 

Oh my god............he is losing EVERY ARGUMENT, hard, at this point

So where exactly are those listed in the Country/Region menu bitch?  

OMFG   

2 minutes ago, jehurey said:

No I didn't, because I already answered that part BEFORE the "or"

 

oh man, he's losing................hard

 

No, it asks for your country OR region:

 

 

And no, you are not lying, because you are not in violation of ANY region as long as you adhere to the TOS within that region.

 

And that includes

• Using prepaid cards only for that registered country/region
• Using credit card for transactions that are accepted in that registered country/region

Sorry, you have completely lost this talking point.

 

..........and you know it

^ this clown keeps missing the point, jesus christ  

The big question Jederpy isn't answering is... if it's so simple... why isn't Sony telling the studio and simply relaying that information to their customers in affected countries?

Why would they have to chase Sony for more info... if the solution is just.... make an account in a different region/country?  

1 minute ago, jehurey said:

You can refund your unused key.

 

Nope...............looks like the Client is the one who controls what they can disclose to you PRIOR TO USING YOUR KEY

 

Once you're key is used, you can't return it back to the seller.

 

Looks like you've lost this one, again.

Sony is selling keys on stores which don't match the requirements listed on Steam's store.

Steam  has nothing to do with that.  That's on Sony.  Once the key is redeemed, Sony is liable.

1 minute ago, jehurey said:

No, it clearly says country/region

 

You've already lost this argument, many times.

 

I'm not the one lying.

 

You're the one who is lying.............completely.

You've lost that one already, multiple times.

Country = Region  sweetie.

1 minute ago, jehurey said:

................and did you keep reading the rest of the sentence in which you are basing your point on?

 

Nope, you didn't?

 

here lemme post your own screenshot

 

 

You can't lie about country..............because the account creation store doesn't ask you to choose based only on your residence country.

 

Therefore only what is highlighted by me is what YOU ARE INTENTIONALLY OMITTING

 

You never finished making your point because you intentionally left out the rest of this sentence.

 

Sony doesn't have to be a "good guy"..........they will ban you because you lied FOR THE PURPOSES on breaking other terms of the agreement.

 

Residence information is not one of those usage or behavioral terms of the agreement.

You've completely lost this argument. I've completely got you checkmate'd right now.

You're missing the word "or"  

Yes, it does ask you to choose your country.. and you're lying about it when you make an account for other regions where you are not officially residing.

My god you've lost every single fucking point this entire day  

1 minute ago, jehurey said:

So what you are saying is that THE CLIENT that performs the key redemption process is FAILING TO DISCLOSE LEGAL NOTICES BEFORE PROCESSING AND USING YOUR KEY??????????????

 

 

Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh. That sounds like grounds for a lawsuit against Valve and Steam.

Nope.  The point of sale was made before.  Steam discloses everything they need to... but the point of sale already happened before that... and Steam isn't liable for that.

Sony... and their official retailers are liable for listing the requirements. 

1 minute ago, jehurey said:

It is available.

 

These PC fanboys are SPREADING A LIE saying that if your specific country is not listed when selecting a PSN store.........then you will get banned.

 

When nobody.............ever................has been banned because of this.

 

And selecting a PSN store is not based entirely on country to begin with:

 

 

 

They're just straight-up lying and trying scaremonger.

 

..........and Valve just acted on that scaremongering.

You're the lying fuckwad here.

If your country isn't listed in that list... you're breaking the TOS by lying about where you are.  That's literally why not all countries are listed there dipshit  

And they reserve the right to ban you for creating accounts if you aren't in one of those countries..  Just because they haven't yet.. doesn't mean that they wont.  And you're literally suggesting Sony tell people to break their TOS to do so  

1 minute ago, jehurey said:

they don't need to because all regions are supported since nobody is blocked from accessing PSN or PSN services unless there is a specific issue within their country that is blocking them.

 

Like say China blocking users from accessing servers outside of China.

 

At which point, that is not in Sony's control.

 

I love how the question you pose.............was ALREADY ANSWERED by me previously. Multiple times

 

Again, you're missing the point retard.  It's not the fact that good guy Sony isn't banning or blocking people from lying and making accounts in places where they don't reside....  It's that they can and do reserve the right to do so.

You simply can't sell games in regions which don't support the requirements you're setting for the game.. lmfao.

6 minutes ago, jehurey said:

doesn't mean that the information is not on steam.

 

So what you are saying is...................GABE NEWELL and Valve Incorporated HAS WITHHELD INFORMATION FROM YOU during this particular process that you are describing???????????????

 

Oh boy................maybe you should take legal action against GABEN?????????? Dontcha think???????

Just because it's on Steam's store does not mean people see it.  They can't enforce that rule unless people actually bought it specifically from Steam's store.  If they bought a key from an official site, and then were only informed of the requirement after the fact.. then they're within their rights to a refund.

Except... many people bought the game, added the key... and played.. due to them circumventing their own requirement... never knowing that a PSN was required to play... and it was like that for 3 months...

They NEEDED to list that requirement EVERYWHERE.. 

They fucked up.  It's OK to admit that depry..  They'll make it right.

Just now, jehurey said:

No, that is not any violation of the USAGE and Behavioural terms

 

The TOS even says that you are limited to the games/content of that partiular PSN store "in the country you registered to."

 

And does not make your residence be a requirement to the PSN store "country you registered to"

 

That phrase is all over the TOS multiple times.

If this issue was so easily adverted... Sony would simply tell the studio to have their players in unsupported regions make accounts from elsewhere.... except........

They're not telling the studio anything... because they know they have a monumental fuck up on their hands...  

One of two things is going to happen here... either Sony OFFICIALLY instruct people to choose a separate country/region from those affected places... or they refund everyone affected.  Plain and fucking simple.

Just now, jehurey said:

Only if you used false information to intentionally do something that is against TOS.

 

Do you have trouble reading the second half of sentences, sweetheart.

 

Its in your OWN screenshot.

 

[Remij just went back and tried to use scissors again]

 

Yes, like intentionally buy games from a country from which you do not reside  

OMFG

Just now, jehurey said:

yet its redeemed from the ONLY launcher in which you can get the game.........and it DOES have that requirement right on that page.

 

Sorry...........but this is just a pathetic reach.

 

Its sold and ONLY REDEEMED on Steam.

 

The requirement is clearly listed there.

 

What are you saying....................that PC gamers DON'T KNOW HOW TO READ INFORMATION OFF OF STEAM????????????

 

think about how stupid and desperate his arguments are getting

From the client... not from the store dipshit.   LOL You don't see the store page at all when redeeming game keys.... because you've already visited a store page which is supposed to list the requirements  

Look at how stupid he's realizing he is right now  

Just now, FIREPOWER said:

Keep coping, you’re the one begging for Sony’s ports and waiting with your bowl waiting years for their scraps. At this rate you will die of hunger waiting for the Bloodborne PC port. Your fellow Hermit Karens have ruined whatever chance you retards had of getting Sony’s main games day and date 

Gonna play Ghost of Tsushima in a couple weeks  

Going to play any others too... no shitty PS5 required  

And nah... you've got it wrong.  This will just cement Sony's realization that they need to hit day and date to get ANY sales from PC.  

Just now, jehurey said:

The one in which they have never banned anyone by selecting Poland.

 

So that region appears to be....................quite big

But they reserve the right to  

Indeed... quite big  

Just now, FIREPOWER said:

This whole fiasco proves that a lot of hermits are actually illiterate retards that don’t read before they buy a product. Whenever I buy any product on Steam or PSN I always read the requirements. The PSN requirement for this game has been there since before the game launched and has remained there highlighted all this time. Why anyone who has a problem creating PSN accounts would buy a game that clearly states “PSN account required” is beyond me 

This game is sold on stores which don't list that requirement dipshit.

Buying a key from an official seller, such as Sony themselves... doesn't even list the requirement.

Not to mention their own FAQ website for the game said it wasn't a requirement. 

Nobody has an issue creating PSN accounts....... people have an issue with Sony legally fucking up.

1 minute ago, jehurey said:

NNnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnope, you ARE indeed selecting a region.

 

It clearly says so right here, clearly given as a parameter and thereby not having "country" as the only requirement:

 

 

Notice how you're entire narrative....................is just false.

 

And i'm bitchslapping you with the actual truth?

 

I definitely notice

Show me which region poland belongs to.  Show me right now where you select the region.... if the "region" isn't........ Poland  

1 minute ago, MalaXmaS said:

Sony fucked up badly and this is BAD NEWS for a market that they are so desperately trying to get in.

 

And this is exactly it....

Sony are trying hard to get into this market.. and their newest CEO stated that they're going to push harder to get in this market... 

Well.... goodluck  

1 minute ago, FIREPOWER said:

Lemij is gonna keep doing mental gymnastics so that he doesn’t address this elephant in the room that destroys his whole retarded narrative 

 

 

 Crying PC Karens have destroyed whatever goodwill they had with Sony. Bloodborne PC port is going to be delayed for another decade at this rate, LMAO.

Sony has destroyed whatever goodwill they had with PC gamers.... because they fucked up and sold their game with the requirement of a PSN account in countries where it doesn't exist  

You're so stupid to not be able to understand that because you're suck a massive fanboy cocksucker  

1 minute ago, jehurey said:

Yup, we know that too.

 

Yes we do.  Sony is desperate for other platforms 

He's actually admitted it  

Just now, jehurey said:

if you select a PSN store in your "region"

 

 

..................then................it................is.....................supported

 

Its like I'm playing Rock paper scissors with an idiot

 

[Remij]: Oh............yeah? Here's SCISSORS!

 

[Jehurey]: Ok.........I'll select a Rock

 

[Remij:]: Oh.............uh...........if you have a rock, then here's PAPER

 

[Jehurey]: "You do know that scissors defeats paper, right?"

 

No.. because you're not selecting a region.. you're selecting a country  

Country=region in this case.. moron.  You don't have any way to see which region your country belongs to..... and you're falsifying information, which they reserve the right to ban you for  

My god, the stupidity  

Just now, jehurey said:

Than the PC, which the Switch 2 will easily have.

 

As we can tell by this chart which utterly destroys your entire nattative about the size of the PC gaming industry:

 

 

 

Nope, that's not it at all.

 

And you even know it, and couldn't come up with anything resembling evidence if you tried.

 

The issues were server based issues, and wait times.

 

He is in no position to permanent remove PSN login requirements

 

The Publisher is.

LMFAO Sony running to other platforms for growth..  Yes, we know that derpy  

Sony fucked up so bad and blew up their 7th biggest game by revenue (just 3 months after it lauched) which it entirely owes to PC  

They're so fucking stupid.  They could have handled this 10000x better and got the same result with no issue... but instead they fucked up their biggest game this year... their first GaaS hit from their entire GaaS incentive... and pissed off the PC community for no reason  

People will study this monumental unnecessary fuck up for years to come