Immigrant concern to propel Swedish far right party to second place. Leftist party admits mistakes

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Liberal shithole take on it.

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/immigrant-concern-to-propel-swedish-far-right-party-to-second-place-leftist-party-admits-mistakes.65994/

 

 

    Three years after the European migration crisis rocked the country, a headline-hogging series of torched cars, grenade attacks and shootings (129 in Stockholm last year, 19 of them fatal), mostly in socially deprived suburbs such as Rinkeby with high immigrant populations, has kept immigration and integration at the top of the political agenda.

    With a week to go before an election on 9 September, in a country that has long prided itself on being perhaps Europe’s most liberal and open to migrants, popular concern over migration looks likely to propel the populist, far-right and anti-immigration Sweden Democrats to a possible 20% of the vote.

    Paula Bieler, a member of the party’s executive board, speaking at its offices in the Riksdag, said: “Of course it’s about immigration. “But immigration affects so much else. Other parties don’t make those connections, won’t talk about these problems, because it’s ‘not nice’ to do so. That’s basically telling voters they’re stupid.”

    Mirroring gains made by far-right, anti-establishment parties in Italy, Germany, France, Austria and the Netherlands, the Sweden Democrats have plainly benefited from the 2015 crisis that overwhelmed social services and caused such fury that refugee accommodation centres were set on fire.

    However, Anders Sannerstadt, a political scientist at Lund University and specialist on the far-right party, said a nation that once billed itself as a “humanitarian superpower” has long been divided over asylum and immigration.

    “Since the early 1990s, opinion polls have consistently shown more people wanting to reduce numbers than increase them,” he said. “But that was never reflected in official policy.”

    About 400,000 people – 163,000 in 2015 – have sought asylum in Sweden in the past six years. This is the highest number per capita in Europe and helped tip the population over the 10 million mark last year.

    The economy is doing fine: unemployment is at its lowest rate for a decade and growth should be about 3% this year. But support for the Sweden Democrats’ policies, which include a total freeze on asylum seekers, accepting future refugees only from Sweden’s Nordic neighbours, tougher penalties for crime and greater powers for police, has surged.

    Niklas Bolin, a specialist in the radical right at Mid Sweden University, said: “Two arguments have been effective. Immigration is a threat to society, because it’s hard to integrate people with different cultural norms. And the cost is harming Sweden’s welfare state. That economic point has really appealed.”

    A raft of multi-party coalitions look possible on left and right. The Social Democrats or the Moderates could also form single-party minority governments. Although considered unlikely, Sweden may even see a German-style grand coalition linking the two traditional blocs.

    But in most scenarios, some proposed laws will stand or fall on the vote of the Sweden Democrats, forcing the government to at least consider their views. No formal arrangements are yet likely, said Bolin, but “in the long run, bit by bit, it will be impossible not to include them somehow”.

 

On mistakes:

But for a critical few years, said Ann-Cathrine Jungar, a far-right specialist at Södertörn University, the Sweden Democrats had “basically an open field” as the only party critical of immigration. “And now the mainstream parties can’t get back the voters they’ve lost,” Jungar said.

On course for a record low score of about 25%, the Social Democrats have admitted mistakes were made. “Obviously there were underestimated integration problems before 2015,” said Anders Ygeman, a former home affairs minister who now heads the party’s parliamentary group. “Maybe people didn’t want to discuss migration so as not to help the far right.”

The party now needs strong policies on immigration and crime, Ygeman said, “perhaps not to win voters back, but to stop more leaving”. Whether it will be able to do that is far from certain.

 

 

 

[McWicked 825]

Facism making a comeback world wide, it seems.  Makes sense, given all of those instances in history where blaming a minority for your countries problems turned out to be the right decision.  

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1 minute ago, McWickedSmawt85 said:

Facism making a comeback world wide, it seems.  Makes sense, given all of those instances in history where blaming a minority for your countries problems turned out to be the right decision.  

Citizens voting against uncontrolled ILLEGAL migration is not fascism you dimwit.

Edited September 2, 2018 by Aza Team 2019

[DynamiteCop 2,086]

5 minutes ago, McWickedSmawt85 said:

Facism making a comeback world wide, it seems.  Makes sense, given all of those instances in history where blaming a minority for your countries problems turned out to be the right decision.  

Problems that did not exist which suddenly started to exist when mass migration of immigrants began flooding the country...

 

Yes, it's fascism to point out the obvious and try to correct it... The left, holy shit you people are certifiably retarded 

Edited September 2, 2018 by Legal US Citizen

[McWicked 825]

1 hour ago, Aza Team 2019 said:

Citizens voting against uncontrolled ILLEGAL migration is not fascism you dimwit.

Yeah, not hearing that shit.  That's the same bullshit they started with in America.  Now they're denaturalizing US citizens.  They've already started pulling "papers please" on people who have birth certificates.  We know this song and dance.

 

http://aldianews.com/articles/politics/immigration/immigrant-denaturalization-trump-administration-begins-denying

Edited September 2, 2018 by McWickedSmawt85

[McWicked 825]

1 minute ago, Legal US Citizen said:

Problems that did not exist which suddenly started to exist when mass migration of immigrants began flooding the country...

 

Yes, it's fascism to point out the obvious and try to correct it... The left, holy shit you people are certifiably retarded 

Ain't got time for racists today, honky.   

[DynamiteCop 2,086]

Just now, McWickedSmawt85 said:

Yeah, not hearing that shit.  That's the same bullshit they started with in America.  Now they're denaturalizing US citizens.  If unchecked, they'll start pulling "papers please" on people who have birth certificates.  We know this song and dance.

 

http://aldianews.com/articles/politics/immigration/immigrant-denaturalization-trump-administration-begins-denying

If you've got legal documentation then you've got nothing to worry about, if you don't then you do, and you should have things to worry about.

 

What's the problem here exactly?

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3 minutes ago, McWickedSmawt85 said:

Yeah, not hearing that shit.  That's the same bullshit they started with in America.  Now they're denaturalizing US citizens.  If unchecked, they'll start pulling "papers please" on people who have birth certificates.  We know this song and dance.

 

http://aldianews.com/articles/politics/immigration/immigrant-denaturalization-trump-administration-begins-denying

If you're a citizen this doesn't affect you. If you're in the country with no legal basis to be there, why the fuck are you even there? The authorities need to kick you the fuck out.

Edited September 2, 2018 by Aza Team 2019

[DynamiteCop 2,086]

Just now, Aza Team 2019 said:

If you're a citizen this doesn't affect you. If you're in the country with no legal basis to be there, why the fuck are you even there?

Exactly.

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22 minutes ago, McWickedSmawt85 said:

Facism making a comeback world wide, it seems.  Makes sense, given all of those instances in history where blaming a minority for your countries problems turned out to be the right decision.  

-50iq post.

 

literally retard level critical thinking skills.

 

yikes

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48 minutes ago, teh_4th said:

-50iq post.

 

literally retard level critical thinking skills.

 

yikes

Which one were you for?  Slavery, apartheid, holocaust, armenian genocide...?  All of the above?

[McWicked 825]

1 hour ago, Aza Team 2019 said:

If you're a citizen this doesn't affect you.

You don't know what "denaturalization" means.

[Playstation Tablet 1,726]

1 minute ago, McWickedSmawt85 said:

Which one were you for?  Slavery, apartheid, holocaust, armenian genocide...?  All of the above?

What does the Armenian genocide have to do with fucking illegal immigration.

 

Just now, McWickedSmawt85 said:

You don't know what "denaturalization" means.

You can't take away a citizenship by law. You can only punish a citizen for example send them to jail, the concept of lose of citizenship doesn't exist.

[McWicked 825]

3 minutes ago, Aza Team 2019 said:

You can't take away a citizenship by law. You can only punish a citizen for example send them to jail, the concept of lose of citizenship doesn't exist.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/31/opinion/trump-birtherism-citizenship-texas.html

 

They're taking away citizenship.

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4 minutes ago, McWickedSmawt85 said:

You don't know what "denaturalization" means.

I do, and you're trying to misrepresent its possible reimplementation and the reason why.

 

It's aimed at deportees who re-entered the country illegally and through the use of false documents and information were unwarrantedly granted greencards and citizenship through illegal misrepresentation and fraud.

 

You're a fucking idiot. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Legal US Citizen said:

I do, and you're trying to misrepresent its possible reimplementation and the reason why.

 

It's aimed at deportees who re-entered the country illegally and through the use of false documents and information were unwarrantedly granted greencards and citizenship through illegal misrepresentation and fraud.

 

You're a fucking idiot. 

 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/31/opinion/trump-birtherism-citizenship-texas.html

 

They denying people who have birth certificates based on the fact that they're Latino and close to the border.  Not that I'd expect you to be reasonable, given your land-mine defense plan.

 

You're a twat, Deeno, and I'm too tired today to go down this road with you.

[DynamiteCop 2,086]

4 minutes ago, McWickedSmawt85 said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/31/opinion/trump-birtherism-citizenship-texas.html

 

They denying people who have birth certificates based on the fact that they're Latino and close to the border.  Not that I'd expect you to be reasonable, given your land-mine defense plan.

 

You're a twat, Deeno, and I'm too tired today to go down this road with you.

Where do most illegals come from and what is their racial background?

 

They're not going to go around questioning Jamaican's on the border, they target the main proponent of the issue and filter, what's the problem?  

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4 hours ago, Legal US Citizen said:

If you've got legal documentation then you've got nothing to worry about, if you don't then you do, and you should have things to worry about.

 

What's the problem here exactly?

No you're wrong.

 

They are now saying that the legal documentation is in question, and therefore they are automatically considered invalid unless proven otherwise.

 

If you were a real american, you would be insulted that your government is doing that to any American.

 

....IF you were a real american.

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15 minutes ago, jehurey said:

No you're wrong.

 

They are now saying that the legal documentation is in question, and therefore they are automatically considered invalid unless proven otherwise.

 

If you were a real american, you would be insulted that your government is doing that to any American.

 

....IF you were a real american.

That's not at all what is taking place, they are checking into the validity of documents for specific individuals where red flags have been presented and keeping tabs on them until they are either cleared or arrested. 

 

It's fully within the law to investigate suspected crimes and fraud as it should be.

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12 minutes ago, Legal US Citizen said:

That's not at all what is taking place, they are checking into the validity of documents for specific individuals where red flags have been presented and keeping tabs on them until they are either cleared or arrested. 

 

It's fully within the law to investigate suspected crimes and fraud as it should be.

No.

 

They ARE valid.............they can't prove that its invalid. They really can't because they're not going to find a witness or a document from 30 years ago. Birth certificates that show a birth through a mid-wife is 100% LEGAL in the United States.

 

They are within the law to investigate.................but they are not within the law to detain US citizens in immigration courts unless they prove they are not valid documents FIRST.

 

They are VALID Americans unless proven otherwise. Not the other way around.

 

If you don't agree with that, you are not a real American who really upholds basic American rights.

Edited September 2, 2018 by jehurey