Playstation Tablet 1,746 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 M.Grossman , Ex AMD, now Xbox GPU architectMicrosoftVRS (granted)https://patents.google.com/patent/US10147227B2 …VRate deferred passes in graphics rndering https://patents.google.com/patent/US20190005713A1 …VRS based on temporal rprojection https://patents.google.com/patent/US20190005714A1 …Tracking pixel lineage in VRS https://patents.google.com/patent/US20190005712A1 … Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,746 Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 https://schedule.gdconf.com/session/directx-variable-rate-shading-a-deep-dive-deriving-screen-space-shading-rate-implementation-tips-and-sparse-lighting-presented-by-microsoft/865785 "Microsoft GPU engineer talking at GDC about that Variable Rate Shading (VRS) stuff that the AMD patent referred to and the DirectX and Microsoft patents " Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,088 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Yep, sure looks like Microsoft is bowing out of the hardware business. Nail in the coffin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,746 Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: Yep, sure looks like Microsoft is bowing out of the hardware business. Nail in the coffin. You're going to get a Surface like XBox solution, its a side project for them long term at best. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,088 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Team 2019 said: You're going to get a Surface like XBox solution, its a side project for them long term at best. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,746 Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 Yeah because the XBox business is about to explode any minute now and give them the growth they want. They're just throwing this out because they're not confident in the XCloud being viable at this stage. Plus they've clearly shown its not all about the XCloud they're willing to do native ports for the people with the hardware that can handle it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,088 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, Team 2019 said: Yeah because the XBox business is about to explode any minute now and give them the growth they want. They're just throwing this out because they're not confident in the XCloud being viable at this stage. Plus they've clearly shown its not all about the XCloud they're willing to do native ports for the people with the hardware that can handle it. They've literally stated nothing, you guys (idiots) keep drawing back to these rumors as some sort of solidified fact and are basing the entire projected destiny of Xbox based upon them. How dumb can you be... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,746 Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: They've literally stated nothing, you guys (idiots) keep drawing back to these rumors as some sort of solidified fact and are basing the entire projected destiny of Xbox based upon them. How dumb can you be... MS expects all their growth, or at least the vast majority of it's growth of the gaming division from XCloud and expanding the number of platforms they support. These are Phil Spencer's words about growth on every platform they can manage to support. You'll get an XBox brick for the dedicated, and thats about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,088 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Just now, Team 2019 said: MS expects all their growth, or at least the vast majority of it's growth of the gaming division from XCloud and expanding the number of platforms they support. These are Phil Spencer's words about growth on every platform they can manage to support. You'll get an XBox brick for the dedicated, and thats about it. Speaking of clouds, your head is up in them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,746 Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 Just now, DynamiteCop! said: Speaking of clouds, your head is up in them. Please explain that amazing XBox growth potential that would satisfy the upper management to keep it as their main strategy over XCloud and supporting multiple systems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,165 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 When you make a thread at least make it accurate. VRS isn't something Microsoft has developed, this is just their application. This is just Navi in general. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,088 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Team 2019 said: Please explain that amazing XBox growth potential that would satisfy the upper management to keep it as their main strategy over XCloud and supporting multiple systems. Who knows, not you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
102020393023445948594 2,223 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 who cares If their gameplan is seriously to not have a single exclusive game, then they should just stop producing hardware all together. I feel bad for the kids whose parents make the mistake of buying them a multiplat shitbox over a system with exclusives. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,746 Posted March 2, 2019 Author Share Posted March 2, 2019 (edited) People are making a good point about checkerboarding. If you run games at 60fps you have double the frames for image reconstruction making everything look much closer to native 4K. All current CB games aside from a few exceptions are 30fps. So 4K 60fps checkerboard is going to be a fantastic compromise all around. Edited March 2, 2019 by Team 2019 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,717 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 5 hours ago, Team 2019 said: People are making a good point about checkerboarding. If you run games at 60fps you have double the frames for image reconstruction making everything look much closer to native 4K. All current CB games aside from a few exceptions are 30fps. So 4K 60fps checkerboard is going to be a fantastic compromise all around. I don't think it will really make a difference in the actual image quality on a per frame basis. Obviously there's different techniques and they bring different results, but for the most part they are still only sampling a set amount of data from the previous frame. What it DOES do though, is reduce the ghosting artifact which exacerbates pixel crawl and aliasing. Which in itself DOES make a huge difference to image quality in motion. I tested it with Watch Dogs 2. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lostfool 680 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 MS is done Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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