Mr. Impossible 408 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 5 hours ago, Saucer said: While usually acting self-righteous about it. What's the cost of playing along with attention-seeking moral phonies? Your dignity. But if you want to humor them to fit in, I'm the last person to try and stop you. Your dignity doesn't have much worth then. The most dramatic case of misuse of pronouns ever was at a gallery after-party where one of the artist who I met once asked if I wanted to smoke with their friends and when asked how we met I said "I met her at a mutual friend's show" and they said "I go by they", I smiled said noted and the conversation went on like nothing happened. You'll spend half a day arguing with Jerry for things you dont even believe or care about yourself so you have the bandwidth for it. Vegans, Cross Fitters, Trump supporters, Gun fuckers, anti-maskers are all infinitely more annoying. It's really telling in the current climate what trivial things bother people in this forum over other things they act like doesn't exist or isn't a big deal. Link to post Share on other sites
54212 432 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Liquid said: Your dignity doesn't have much worth then. The most dramatic case of misuse of pronouns ever was at a gallery after-party where one of the artist who I met once asked if I wanted to smoke with their friends and when asked how we met I said "I met her at a mutual friend's show" and they said "I go by they", I smiled said noted and the conversation went on like nothing happened. You'll spend half a day arguing with Jerry for things you dont even believe or care about yourself so you have the bandwidth for it. Vegans, Cross Fitters, Trump supporters, Gun fuckers, anti-maskers are all infinitely more annoying. It's really telling in the current climate what trivial things bother people in this forum over other things they act like doesn't exist or isn't a big deal. If it began and ended with vanity pronouns, I'd write it off as another silly fad, and if they're feelings get hurt, I'd apologize to them for not liking their new Pet Rock. The problem is that behind the annoying attention-seeking is the Woke cult's attempt to police language and turn Wokism into a global monoculture. If MAGA is stage two cancer, Wokism is stage 4. Imagine MAGA but with dominate control of our soft power institutions. That's what's likely coming if the Dems run the table in November because the left does as bad of a job of policing their wingnuts as the right these days. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Impossible 408 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, Saucer said: If it began and ended with vanity pronouns, I'd write it off as another silly fad, and if they're feelings get hurt, I'd apologize to them for not liking their new Pet Rock. The problem is that behind the annoying attention-seeking is the Woke cult's attempt to police language and turn Wokism into a global monoculture. If MAGA is stage two cancer, Wokism is stage 4. Imagine MAGA but with dominate control of our soft power institutions. That's what's likely coming if the Dems run the table in November because the left does as bad of a job of policing their wingnuts as the right these days. Oh geez, another intellectually dishonest, overly hyperbolic shit post. I thought you were arguing in good faith. Link to post Share on other sites
54212 432 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Liquid said: Oh geez, another intellectually dishonest, overly hyperbolic shit post. I thought you were arguing in good faith. See? You refuse to police your own side. Trump is Hitler but the Woke are just harmless college kids. Serious question: Didn't you say before that you drew the line at using corny sci-fi pronouns like xe and xer? With the Woke gaining more clout by the day, have you caved in that one? Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Impossible 408 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, Saucer said: See? You refuse to police your own side. Trump is Hitler but the Woke are just harmless college kids. Serious question: Didn't you say before that you drew the line at using corny sci-fi pronouns like xe and xer? With the Woke gaining more clout by the day, have you caved in that one? Lol where to even start with this. It's not my job to police anyone. I don't even know what you and cocke are coming from with this policing talk. I don't use xe or xer but also I have never met a single person who uses those pronouns and I run in circles with queer separatist, anarchist, femme supremacist, heathens, and disassociated WASP. So that seemed to be a self corrected issue unworthy of concern. Now you're comparing the president of fucking united states to random hypothetical college kids? Link to post Share on other sites
54212 432 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 17 minutes ago, Liquid said: Lol where to even start with this. It's not my job to police anyone. I don't even know what you and cocke are coming from with this policing talk. I don't use xe or xer but also I have never met a single person who uses those pronouns and I run in circles with queer separatist, anarchist, femme supremacist, heathens, and disassociated WASP. So that seemed to be a self corrected issue unworthy of concern. Now you're comparing the president of fucking united states to random hypothetical college kids? You constantly criticize the right but excuse the far left. You're not willing to reign in your own side. Instead you provide cover for them. Anyone who's around academic, arts, or politics circles runs into the whole political crop. And I grew up in the Berkeley punk scene so this "I know trans people" brag is pretty lame. Again, if someone requested you use corny sci-fi pronouns, would you now use them now? Have you caved? I'm comparing the power of the MAGA crowd to the power of the Woke crowd while you try to downplay the Woke crowd as just some harmless college kids. Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgeW1000 118 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 5 hours ago, Saucer said: If it began and ended with vanity pronouns, I'd write it off as another silly fad, and if they're feelings get hurt, I'd apologize to them for not liking their new Pet Rock. The problem is that behind the annoying attention-seeking is the Woke cult's attempt to police language and turn Wokism into a global monoculture. If MAGA is stage two cancer, Wokism is stage 4. Imagine MAGA but with dominate control of our soft power institutions. That's what's likely coming if the Dems run the table in November because the left does as bad of a job of policing their wingnuts as the right these days. How is maga cancer? What is the difference between trump’s presidency and George w bush’s? Without the wars. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Impossible 408 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, GeorgeW1000 said: How is maga cancer? What is the difference between trump’s presidency and George w bush’s? Without the wars. Bush was cancer too. Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgeW1000 118 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Just now, Liquid said: Bush was cancer too. Why Link to post Share on other sites
Cooke 2,027 Posted August 9, 2020 Author Share Posted August 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, GeorgeW1000 said: Why He went to war on a lie Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Impossible 408 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Saucer said: You constantly criticize the right but excuse the far left. You're not willing to reign in your own side. Instead you provide cover for them. Anyone who's around academic, arts, or politics circles runs into the whole political crop. And I grew up in the Berkeley punk scene so this "I know trans people" brag is pretty lame. Again, if someone requested you use corny sci-fi pronouns, would you now use them now? Have you caved? I'm comparing the power of the MAGA crowd to the power of the Woke crowd while you try to downplay the Woke crowd as just some harmless college kids. I criticize those who champion disenfranchising people of color, women, and LGBTQ people. Who are fine with corruption and unsustainable quality of life for the majority. That all just happens to be the right wings jam. I'm glad you hung out with punk kids in the 70s-80s... Only flaw in your simp brag is that you're comparing boomers you grew up with to the generation you're whining about. It's tomatoes to oranges. I wouldn't use xe, but I also wouldn't handle the situation where I actively complain or needlessly offend someone. I would just not address their pronouns or say "they". Like how often does someone use another person's pronouns in a normal day anyway? It's the dumbest thing to sweat. Even if I did, it would more likely be a point of coming around as opposed to "giving in". Being rigid and immovable isn't really something to be proud of. You're making a completely ridiculous, disingenuous talking point to act like MAGA is completely separate from the fucking president of the United States, who has the entire republican party falling in with him. His approval rating is like 95% with his party. He's got Republicans candidates running on just the MAGA platform. He's got the biggest news network carrying his water, and nearly all right wing pundits praise him on a daily basis. How is that on par with a small percentage of a small percentage of people? Like 10% of the population even identify as LGBTQ, and you're talking about fringe percentage of that. On a colloquial platform at that. Bu bu they equal. Edited August 9, 2020 by Liquid Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgeW1000 118 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, Cooke (not admin cant help said: He went to war on a lie Yeah, I said without the wars for a reason. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Impossible 408 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 23 minutes ago, GeorgeW1000 said: Why Came in to a surplus and left it in shambles. Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgeW1000 118 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, Liquid said: Came in to a surplus and left it in shambles. Yeah, that’s because of the war again. Link to post Share on other sites
Cooke 2,027 Posted August 9, 2020 Author Share Posted August 9, 2020 Didn't the massive economic crash and 911 happen under bush? Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgeW1000 118 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Cooke (not admin cant help said: Didn't the massive economic crash and 911 happen under bush? Wow... come on. I’m obviously talking about policy decisions he made, not things that are beyond his control. What policies that bush did were bad? Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Impossible 408 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, GeorgeW1000 said: Yeah, that’s because of the war again. So other than the 2 wars and economic crash... By this logic there is no such thing as a bad president. Lol Link to post Share on other sites
54212 432 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Liquid said: I criticize those who champion disenfranchising people of color, women, and LGBTQ people. Enfranchisement means having the right to vote. What the fuck are you even talking about? 37 minutes ago, Liquid said: I wouldn't use xe No shit. Edited August 9, 2020 by Saucer Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Impossible 408 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 16 minutes ago, Saucer said: Enfranchisement means having the right to vote. What the fuck are you even talking about? No shit. Oh yeah, I forgot that voter suppression doesn't exist. My bad. Link to post Share on other sites
54212 432 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, Liquid said: Oh yeah, I forgot that voter suppression doesn't exist. My bad. I'm not disagreeing that Trump is shit, and I hope to God that Biden suddenly becomes wise. Link to post Share on other sites
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