Long Ball Larry 1,386 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 (edited) Edited May 10, 2021 by ghostz life matters Link to post Share on other sites
PuNKy_LeMmInG 172 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 TCHBO Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Impossible 589 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 I feel like this shows gamepass isn't the industry game changer xboys claim it is. Link to post Share on other sites
Long Ball Larry 1,386 Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, Mr. Impossible said: I feel like this shows gamepass isn't the industry game changer xboys claim it is. More so says cows are willing to pay for games despite them being free on other platforms ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,460 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, ghostz life matters said: More so says cows are willing to pay for games despite them being free on other platforms ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ GP is free now? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Long Ball Larry 1,386 Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Goukosan said: GP is free now? It would essentially be if it was on PlayStation. Outriders, MLB = $130. Gamepass annual sub = 120. so yeah, assuming you’d play even one more game thru the year it would have paid itself off. Edited May 10, 2021 by ghostz life matters 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,460 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 35 minutes ago, ghostz life matters said: It would essentially be if it was on PlayStation. Outriders, MLB = $130. Gamepass annual sub = 120. so yeah, assuming you’d play even one more game thru the year it would have paid itself off. So it's not free.....got it 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Impossible 589 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 2 hours ago, ghostz life matters said: More so says cows are willing to pay for games despite them being free on other platforms ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Yes, because they prefer the console to the Xbox. It's not that hard. Link to post Share on other sites
FIREPOWER 951 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 (edited) Since when did buying games become a bad thing? if anything it proves GP isn't the industry game changer you lems think it is. If GP was so huge it would have impacted sales of those games on PSN but it didn't meaning PS gamers don't mind paying for their games like we've been doing for the last 40 something years of console gaming. Edited May 10, 2021 by FIREPOWER Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,318 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 So...............developers are figuring out that they could make more money selling full-priced games on Playstation than they would on GamePass. Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,823 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 I don't think this is making the argument you think it is 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Long Ball Larry 1,386 Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 Lmao. Cows happy to spend more money on the exact same games. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. House 3,371 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, jehurey said: So...............developers are figuring out that they could make more money selling full-priced games on Playstation than they would on GamePass. Obviously. If anyone does it it's because Microsoft paid good money or directly owns the company. Link to post Share on other sites
Long Ball Larry 1,386 Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, Ramza said: Obviously. If anyone does it it's because Microsoft paid good money or directly owns the company. Except it’s not one or the other. It’s… Cows have to pay, and Lemmings don’t. Link to post Share on other sites
Long Ball Larry 1,386 Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, FIREPOWER said: Since when did buying games become a bad thing? if anything it proves GP isn't the industry game changer you lems think it is. If GP was so huge it would have impacted sales of those games on PSN but it didn't meaning PS gamers don't mind paying for their games like we've been doing for the last 40 something years of console gaming. How would Gamepass impact sales of PS? Most people don’t own both. Cows don’t have a choice, lol. Link to post Share on other sites
FIREPOWER 951 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, ghostz life matters said: How would Gamepass impact sales of PS? Most people don’t own both. Cows don’t have a choice, lol. Nah, this early in the gen it's mostly hardcore gamers buying games and hardcore tend to be multi-console owners. If GamePass isn't disrupting Sony's business model which by the looks of things is approximately 70-80% of sales going by the Resident Evil sales thread then this isn't good news for MS. The whole point of GP is to get people to stop spending $60-70 for games and instead adopt the subscription model which is clearly not happening for the majority of gamers. This might be good news for lems as they get to save money but in the end it's bad news for the GP platform and Xbox in general as MS is seeing less revenue on their platform and it makes it a lot harder for MS to negotiate third party deals with this kind of sales split. Expect Sony to easily secure more big third party exclusives like FF7 & 16 going forward with these sort of figures. Edited May 11, 2021 by FIREPOWER Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,823 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 10 minutes ago, ghostz life matters said: How would Gamepass impact sales of PS? Most people don’t own both. Cows don’t have a choice, lol. The entire point of GP is to make people shift over to that ecosystem. If it was truly flourishing you would see big declines in PS software sales yet they are at record breaking levels. How are DVDs sales going since Netflix became a success? Meanwhile Nintendo (who don't even do price drops) and Sony are continually breaking sales records. The only thing GP is impacting is sales on it's on console, the Xbox, just as predicted RE8 with a 20% market share on XBox LMAO. Eating it's own market because they have accustomed their userbase to not pay for games. Exact same scenario as what happened in the mobile space, where now even $1 feels expensive cause it should be FTP. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,318 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, ghostz life matters said: Except it’s not one or the other. It’s… Cows have to pay, and Lemmings don’t. except...............you DO have to pay. Not only do you have to pay. If you don't pay.............everything you HAVE ALREADY PAID FOR, month after month............gets taken away from you. So, you effectively continue to pay................for something YOU WILL NEVER OWN. Did you honestly think you would convince people that you aren't paying anything? Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,318 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, madmaltese said: Eating it's own market because they have accustomed their userbase to not pay for games. Do you know who predicted this very thing? Satoru Iwata At a keynote speech that he gave at GDC before he died. TEN YEARS AGO Quote Furthermore, Iwata argued makers of mobile and social platforms have no motivation to encourage high-value software, unlike companies that make systems dedicated to games. “For them, content is something created by someone else. Their goal is to just gather as much software as possible, because … that is how they profit. The value of video game software does not matter to them. … The fact is, what we produce has value, and we should protect that value.” "Their goal is to just gather as much software as possible, because … that is how they profit" Now, who do you constantly see in the news doing what he is describing? Hmmmmmm. Link to post Share on other sites
Long Ball Larry 1,386 Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, jehurey said: except...............you DO have to pay. Not only do you have to pay. If you don't pay.............everything you HAVE ALREADY PAID FOR, month after month............gets taken away from you. So, you effectively continue to pay................for something YOU WILL NEVER OWN. Did you honestly think you would convince people that you aren't paying anything? Dawg, I play madden & nhl yearly. I will always pay, because I’ve already made my money back. Literally everything else.. all free Link to post Share on other sites
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