DF reviews RE4 Remake: Worst on Ps5 (Absolute Cow SLAUGHTER) UP: PS5 version looks like 720p, unplayable in res mode due to stutter, constant light flickers, DEADZONE issues UPDATE: Jerry admits he is living with autism, TLHBO hasn’t gamed since 2003

[jehurey 3,299]

5 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

This is straight copy paste from their article....

 

 

So is this:

 

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image quality on the PC is not very good.

Once again, I already said the PS5 is getting a VR mode, direct from Capcom.

 

That makes it the best version.

 

This is out of Digital Foundry's purview.

7 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

 

If you don't believe the above, just watch Ghostz video. They explicitly go through each setting on PC, and explain how and why it looks better.

No, they didn't say anything that debunks:

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image quality on the PC is not very good.

And once again, the PS5 is getting a VR mode, direct from Capcom.

 

This is not up for debate.......the PS5 with VR is going to be the best.

 

8 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

 

^PC shits over the PS5 version.

The PS5 version is getting the VR mode, direct from Capcom

 

You already lose this argument, because you're avoiding this fact.

 

You already know that this makes the PS5 version the best to get.

 

9 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

 

 

 

They also tested the highest PC settings,  

 

https://imgur.com/a/gikfwZU

 

 

Does a VR mode from Capcom magically unlock at the "highest PC settings"?????????????

 

No???????????????????????

 

Then the PS5 version is still going to be the best version.

 

 

10 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

 

 

Two months later, they use SM/MM as games which AVOID stuttering on an ENGINE LEVEL.

No, they don't

 

They avoid stuttering by setting the game with settings that are LOWER than PS5

 

We know..............we know...............there's stuttering.

 

You cannot disprove this.

 

If you don't address this screenshot, you lose the argument. Plain and Simple.

 

12 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

 

You're literally citing videos and articles that directly disagree with you

No.

 

Alex Battaglia is literally saying the state of PC ports are bad.

 

Alex Battaglia is literally saying Unreal Engine games, and many other PC games stutter.

 

You are just pretending that you don't see it. Maybe you need to rewatch them.

 

13 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

 

 

You're like those anti-vaxxers who cited CDC Data....or climate deniers who cite NASA lol.....

You cite no data.

 

And I cite CDC Data that agrees with CDC's conclusions.

 

I cite NASA data that agrees with NASA's conclusions.

 

You are literally denying what Alex Battaglia is literally complaining about the state of PC gaming.

 

Thank about how crazy you look. You are literally taking a video that looks like this:

 

 

And pretending that Alex Battaglia is saying that everything is good.

 

Who are you fooling?

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6 minutes ago, jehurey said:

So is this:

 

 

AND IT'S WORSE ON CONSOLES. 

 

7 minutes ago, jehurey said:

So is this:

 

 

You cite no data.

 

 

I cited two DF videos showing RE4 on PC is better than on PS5. One directly saying it, one directly showing it side by side.

 

This isn't even debatable.

 

8 minutes ago, jehurey said:

 

 

Alex Battaglia is literally saying  

 

 

He's saying SM and MM don't stutter and are amazing ports. Quite literally he said it's "AMAZING" and "BRAVO" after going through the highest settings, and used it as an example of a game that doesn't stutter on PC....

 

Do you admit you are wrong on these 3 games already so we can move on?

 

[jehurey 3,299]

3 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

AND IT'S WORSE ON CONSOLES. 

 

 

No

 

The PS5 is getting a VR mode, direct from Capcom.

 

Digital Foundry doesn't address this, as it is out of their purview.

 

So, the discussion is "which version is best."

 

Its not a debate. RE4 remake in VR is easily going to be the best version.

 

You have nothing to say that will change this.

 

4 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

 

 

I cited two DF videos

 

That does not have the following information in their video

 

Here's I'll repeat it:

 

The PS5 is getting a VR mode, direct from Capcom.

 

Digital Foundry doesn't address this, as it is out of their purview.

 

So, the discussion is "which version is best."

 

Its not a debate. RE4 remake in VR is easily going to be the best version.

 

You have nothing to say that will change this.

 

5 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

This isn't even debatable.

 

Yeah, the version with VR is easily going to be the best.

 

Isn't even debatable.

 

6 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

 

He's saying SM and MM don't stutter

 

which he only recommends at lower than PS5 settings.........thus destroying your claim.

 

And we KNOW it stutters

 

 

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If you don't address this screenshot, you lose the argument. Plain and Simple.

You lost.

 

Its so easy when I know I've beaten you..............you are too scared to even come close to responding to my checkmate.

 

Just like you demonstrated, right there.

7 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

Do you admit you are wrong on these 3 games already so we can move on?

 

 

You're wrong.

 

I easily defeated and debunked you on SM/MM

 

and.

 

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you lose

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Just now, jehurey said:

No

 

 

Yes.

 

1. 

 

2. 

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 That means you can expect better-than-console performance and image quality, but there are still improvements for Capcom to make -DF

 

It's not even a good bit better. It's way better. 

 

2 minutes ago, jehurey said:

 

 

I easily defeated and debunked you on SM/MM

 

 

 

 

1. 

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 Spider-Man is an AMAZING PC PORT....Bravo to Nixxies -DF

 

2.

 

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[Gives examples of PC games that don't stutter. Explains Spider-Man's engine, and how it does this.] -DF

 

 

 

You're toast. These 3 games are just a whole lot better on PC. Why are you so mad over this fact it's not even some kind of big mystery. The hardware is nuts for 4000 series, I play these games at much higher frames and much better gfx.

 

Who cares.

[jehurey 3,299]

1 minute ago, Substatic said:

 

Yes.

 

1. 

 

Nope

 

Once again, I'll repeat it for you:

 

The PS5 is getting a VR mode, direct from Capcom.

 

Digital Foundry doesn't address this, as it is out of their purview.

 

So, the discussion is "which version is best."

 

Its not a debate. RE4 remake in VR is easily going to be the best version.

 

You have nothing to say that will change this.If you fail to provide any direct response to this, then we know you've lost the argument.

2 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

 

 

It's not even a good bit better. It's way better. 

 

The PS5 is getting a VR mode, direct from Capcom.

 

Digital Foundry doesn't address this, as it is out of their purview.

 

So, the discussion is "which version is best."

 

Its not a debate. RE4 remake in VR is easily going to be the best version.

 

You have nothing to say that will change this.If you fail to provide any direct response to this, then we know you've lost the argument.

 

3 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

 

Spider-Man is an AMAZING PC PORT....Bravo to Nixxies -DF

 

Its amazing at lower than PS5 settings.

 

And we know it stutters:

 

 

If you don't address this screenshot, you lose the argument. Plain and Simple.

 

Congratulations. You lost, since you failed to address the screenshot.

 

4 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

Gives examples of PC games that don't stutter. 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for re-confirming what I said you were

 

A known liar.

 

5 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

 

 

You're toast. These 3 games are just a whole lot better on PC. Why are you so mad over this fact

Sorry, projection isn't going to work. Too late for that.

 

I'm not mad that I keep on winning these failed arguments that you've lost multiple times already

 

Its so sad how you have to run away and pretend you don't see things, in order to maintain your delusion.

 

Every time you fail to address the specific piece of evidence I provided.............I laugh and enjoy my victory.

 

It will never get old.

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Just now, jehurey said:

 

 

The PS5 is getting a VR mode, 

 

 

 

If this is your only defense against the PC version looking and performing significantly better than both console versions, and DF directly saying it's the better version.....then you're admitting you got got fucking obliterated by me.

 

No amount of getting the last post in will save you from this.

 

 

2 minutes ago, jehurey said:

 

If you don't address this screenshot, you lose the argument. Plain and Simple.

 

 

Nah. I'm going to cite two Digital Foundry articles over a Steam forum post.

 

SM and MM are far better on PC. Just remembered I have to go play it at ~100fps and better gfx than you! Just like RE4!

[jehurey 3,299]

1 minute ago, Substatic said:

 

If this is your only defense against the PC version

By pointing out actual features that are coming for the PS5?

 

LOL, its not a defense...........its a nuclear bomb that destroys anything you have.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

PC version looking and performing significantly better than both console versions, and DF directly saying

No............the topic is "which version is best"

 

The one that has a VR mode, direct from Capcom.....................is best.

 

Period.

 

This is out of Digital Foundry's purview.

 

You've avoided this, which means you know you lost.

 

You've officially lost this argument.

3 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

 

 

No amount of getting the last post in will save you from this.

 

 

Don't need saving when I've already beaten you, and got you so cowardly running away that you don't even address the things I say.

 

That's me already having won.

 

And you already demonstrating that you are aware that you have lost.

 

4 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

 

Nah.

Then thanks for losing

 

You cite things I already beat you on, already.

 

5 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

 

 

SM and MM are far better on PC

No they're not. They stutter

 

We KNOW they stutter.

 

 

5 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

I have to go play it at ~100fps and better gfx

no you don't play spider man at all, since it stutters.

 

Because if you did, you wouldn't have ran away from the challenge I made for you to put up or shut up.

 

And you proceeded to....................do what now?.......................run away

 

because you know you were going to record footage of................stuttering and yo-yo'ing framerate

[jehurey 3,299]

 

 

[TLHBO 2,170]

If there's one thing I've learned from this thread it's that you can fit a hell of a lot of words in the title. I wonder what the limit is.

[Substatic 422]

11 hours ago, jehurey said:

 

No............the topic is "which version is best"

 

Resident Evil 4.

 

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"That means you can expect better-than-console performance and image quality" [PC RE4] - Digital Foundry 2023

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"You get better hair rendering, better shading, better looking RT, better textures, better SSAO [than console]. Hell of a lot sharper and "super smooth". It's a Great Version." [PC RE4] - Digital Foundry 2023

 

 

Spider-Man and Miles Morales (December Update)

 

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"It's an AMAZING port." "Bravo to Nixxies" [Right after testing HIGHEST settings]. - Digital Foundry 2022

 

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[Describes how Spider-Man and Miles Morales "Eliminated Shader Stutter" through engine techniques, using it as a prime example of how to port to PC. -Digital Foundry 2023

 

 

There is nothing to even debate here. 

 

 

[Goukosan 2,283]

10 hours ago, jehurey said:

 

 

 

Works fine on my PC 💻. 

[-GD-X★ 7,814]

32 minutes ago, TLHBO said:

If there's one thing I've learned from this thread it's that you can fit a hell of a lot of words in the title. I wonder what the limit is.

i just added some random characters. he was almost max'd out lol.

[Substatic 422]

17 minutes ago, Goukosan said:

 

Works fine on my PC 💻. 

 

Nah, I already agreed it sucks on PC. Very poor job by whoever Sony hired. But putting it in the same list as RE4, SM, and MM - which are highly praised ports and substantially better on PC than PS5 - is some Low IQ nonsense.

 

 

[Goukosan 2,283]

Just now, Substatic said:

 

Nah, I already agreed it sucks on PC. Very poor job by whoever Sony hired. But putting it in the same list as RE4, SM, and MM - which are highly praised ports and substantially better on PC than PS5 - is some Low IQ nonsense.

 

 

 

Not putting it in the same league.  There are different variances of issues per title. 

 

But. 

 

No matter what the issues are in general PC gamers always claim it works fine on thier own personal PC. 

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Just now, Goukosan said:

 

 

 

No matter what the issues are in general PC gamers always claim it works fine on thier own personal PC. 

 

Unless the game actually does work fine, and is supported by tech sites like DF as working fine. Like RE4, SM, and MM. I am running all 3 over 100FPS while looking way better than PS5. And I have DF to back me up on it.

[Goukosan 2,283]

1 minute ago, Substatic said:

 

Unless the game actually does work fine, and is supported by tech sites like DF as working fine. Like RE4, SM, and MM. I am running all 3 over 100FPS while looking way better than PS5. And I have DF to back me up on it.

 

Obviously I'm not talking about the games with no issues. 

 

Talking about the ones with issues like RE4 that DF and the fans have been complaining about for 5 years that hermits like yourself are now pretending works just fine.

 

Why would Capcom even bother to fix it if you guys keep saying "it's fine" 

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2 minutes ago, Goukosan said:

 

 

 

Talking about the ones with issues like RE4 that DF and the fans have been complaining about for 5 years that hermits like yourself are now pretending works just fine.

 

 

 

This RE4 Remake? It beats the shit out of the PS5 version.

[Goukosan 2,283]

5 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

This RE4 Remake? It beats the shit out of the PS5 version.

 

That's great, yet it still doesn't work fine on PC.  Capcom will never address the RE engine issues on PC because you hermits just accept it as fine. 

 

Meanwhile they will patch and will continually improve the engine on PS5 because they let Capcom know the performance did not meet their standards at Launch. 

 

 

Hope you enjoy another 5 years on RE engine issues on PC

Edited March 31, 2023 by Goukosan

[Substatic 422]

11 minutes ago, Goukosan said:

 

That's great, yet it still doesn't work fine on PC.  

 

Yeah the debate was which system RE4 is best on PC. The answer is PC, and not by a minor amount.

 

The only engine issue I'm aware of is the TAA being kind of meh, but still looking significantly better on PC. And that's discounting the fact you can fix it with a mod.

 

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Meanwhile they will patch and will continually improve the engine on PS5  

 

 

There is no engine improvements that will make it run as smooth and good looking as PC. That'll have to be PS5:PRO + praying. 

Edited March 31, 2023 by Substatic

[TLHBO 2,170]

1 hour ago, -GD-X said:

i just added some random characters. he was almost max'd out lol.

20 characters, just enough to add a correction to Ghostz lies