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University used to be a place where your thoughts were supposed to be challenged. Now it's shutdown every time Ben Shapiro shows up to have a discussion, or Bret Weinstein says maybe your thinking ought to be challenged...

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3 minutes ago, Teh_Diplomat said:

University used to be a place where your thoughts were supposed to be challenged. Now it's shutdown every time Ben Shapiro shows up to have a discussion, or Bret Weinstein says maybe your thinking ought to be challenged...

It's not even something as big as that now. It can be something as simple as a single word being taken out of context and with no ill intent behind it and someone loses their job. 

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1 minute ago, Voidler said:

I guess the better question is how? What makes them weak?

They can't overcome any sort of adversity without runnings to mommy or daddy or the president of a university. They can't figure out how to solve their own problems anymore. If you make an environment that is too safe it weakens us. Just like how if we avoid all allergens as an infant we become allergic to them. 

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3 minutes ago, Cookester15 said:

They can't overcome any sort of adversity without runnings to mommy or daddy or the president of a university. They can't figure out how to solve their own problems anymore. If you make an environment that is too safe it weakens us. Just like how if we avoid all allergens as an infant we become allergic to them. 

1. The only people encountering issues at Universities are those peddling hate speech. Milo, Ben Shapiro etc are not academics - they are peddling internet celebrities spewing propaganda. And this isn’t a 90s kids issue - this is how Universities have been for 30+ years

 

2. Weakens who? How is anybody being weakened by reducing discrimination? 

 

3. That is not how you develop allergies lmfao

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3 minutes ago, Voidler said:

1. The only people encountering issues at Universities are those peddling hate speech. Milo, Ben Shapiro etc are not academics - they are peddling internet celebrities spewing propaganda. And this isn’t a 90s kids issue - this is how Universities have been for 30+ years

 

2. Weakens who? How is anybody being weakened by reducing discrimination? 

 

3. That is not how you develop allergies lmfao

1- Absolutely not. Though they experience the worst.   

 

2- listen to the podcast

 

3- its an anology

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18 minutes ago, Cookester15 said:

1- Absolutely not. Though they experience the worst.   

 

2- listen to the podcast

 

3- its an anology

You need to realise that those on both extremes are morons - those who think we should ban all white males from a room and those who think blaming everything on Mexicans and Gays is intellectual discourse worthy of a University. The same types of mind sets are what lead to extremism. But these people are vocal minorities on both extremes

 

One side is just as likely to have an aneurysm over an example of white male privilege as the other side is to throw a hissy fit because a black man kneeled or burn a Harry Potter book because it came from the devil

 

Feminism, progressiveness and conservatism are not new concepts developed by 90s kids - they are the offspring of overall efforts to improve things for women and minorities over the past 50+ years. And occasionally we have examples where it goes too far to the extreme on both sides - whether it’s women burning bras or Milo telling us women are lower IQ and deserve to be on the bottom

 

Right now we are in the peak of discourse about rights, but it always course corrects to a middle ground where things are better for people than they were before. 

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