Avenatti lmfao

[jehurey 3,273]

4 minutes ago, Saucer said:

 

You're avoiding the question.  

 

"An unindicted coconspirator is someone against whom a grand jury has found probable cause, on the basis of evidence, that he or she is guilty of being a coconspirator in a crime."

 

Cite where a grand jury indicted Cohen. Cite it.

No, you're trying to lock me into a semantics argument that isn't working.

 

Sweetie.................if New York is officially done with their prosecution, and it ended with Cohen...............WHY DO THEY STILL HAVE EVIDENCE, AND WARRANTS still under seal?

 

 

Quote

 

Prosecutors Oppose NYT Bid to Unseal Michael Cohen Warrants

By

Bob Van Voris

October 12, 2018, 5:16 PM CDT

Prosecutors in New York are opposing a request from the New York Times to unseal search warrants and related materials having to do with Michael Cohen, saying releasing the documents would affect an ongoing grand jury investigation.

 

The Times on Thursday sent a letter to U.S. District Judge William Pauley asking for "copies of the search warrants, search warrant applications, supporting affidavits, court orders and returns on executed warrants" related to April 9 searches of Cohen’s home, hotel room and office.

 

Federal prosecutors in Manhattan responded Friday with a letter saying the government will oppose the request and asked to file some of its reasoning under seal.

 

Cohen, President Donald Trump’s former lawyer and fixer, pleaded guilty in August to violating campaign laws at the "direction" of a political candidate who’s been identified as Trump. Cohen helped facilitate hush-money payments to two women who claimed they had extramarital affairs with Trump.

 

Pauley gave prosecutors until Oct. 26 to reply to the request from the New York Times. He also granted the government’s request to file part of the response under seal, for Pauley’s eyes only.

 

Its under seal, because they still have an ongoing investigation.

 

They still have an ongoing investigation, because they still intend to go after somebody else.

 

You're trying to run out of this thread, pretty quickly. Aren't you?

 

I got no sympathy for you. This is what you get for trying to rely on Dershowitz's bullshit.

[54212 432]

4 minutes ago, jehurey said:

No, you're trying to lock me into a semantics argument that isn't working.

 

You kept throwing the term around and it turns out you don't even know what it means. What a faggot. 

Edited November 19, 2018 by Saucer

[jehurey 3,273]

1 minute ago, Saucer said:

 

You're kept throwing the term around and it turns out you don't even know what it means. What a faggot. 

Yup, you're know that you're losing this argument, so you are trying to flame your way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

D'oooooooooooooh Jesus, when did you get that Dershowitz quote? because it looks like its not even valid as of mid-October.

 

 

Quote

 

Federal prosecutors confirm grand jury investigation related to Michael Cohen case

 

Christal Hayes, USA TODAY Published 10:24 a.m. ET Oct. 13, 2018 | Updated 8:24 p.m. ET Oct. 14, 2018

WASHINGTON – Federal prosecutors on Friday confirmed an ongoing grand jury investigation related to Michael Cohen, the president's former attorney and fixer. 

The revelation came in a response to a request in a letter sent by The New York Times to Judge William Pauley III, who is presiding over the case in New York's Southern District. 

The Times requested Thursday that Pauley unseal materials related to the raids done on Cohen's home, hotel and office earlier this year before he pleaded guilty to eight criminal counts. 

"The Times seeks copies of search warrants, search warrant applications, supporting affidavits, court orders and returns on executed warrants," the newspaper's attorneys wrote in a letter. 

Prosecutors responded by saying they were against the request and releasing the documents would affect "an ongoing grand jury investigation," a letter to Pauley on Friday reads. 

 

 

[McWicked 825]

5 hours ago, Vini said:

Yea you're counting a bunch of Russians in that number.

 

But it doesn't matter anyway even if there were a thousand incitements unless there's recorded evidence of a phone call or any sort of communication compromising Trump either directly with Russians or explicitly giving direction to collude with Russians none of this shit means anything. 

 

You're embarrassing.

Edited November 19, 2018 by McWickedSmawt85

[McWicked 825]

3 hours ago, Saucer said:

 

You're avoiding the question.  

 

"An unindicted coconspirator is someone against whom a grand jury has found probable cause, on the basis of evidence, that he or she is guilty of being a coconspirator in a crime."

 

Cite where a grand jury indicted Cohen. Cite it.

Jessus you and Vini are a couple of dumb fucks.  An indictment is a formal charge of a serious crime.  If you plead guilty, there's no reason to be indicted because you already admitted to the crime.

 

4 hours ago, Saucer said:

 

You said he was going to prison because he committed tax fraud. 

 

"$413 million in tax fraud.  Trump's going to try to do everything he can not to lose power because it's literally the only thing keeping him from going to prison."

 

Again, are you so dumb that you don't understand the difference between civil and criminal charges? 

 

Already answered this in the piece you quoted.  If you don't like it, tough.  

[Goukosan 2,258]

6 hours ago, Vini said:

Yea you're counting a bunch of Russians in that number.

 

But it doesn't matter anyway even if there were a thousand incitements unless there's recorded evidence of a phone call or any sort of communication compromising Trump either directly with Russians or explicitly giving direction to collude with Russians none of this shit means anything. 

 

Vini claims not to watch right wing media... yet, time and time again... he coincidentally repeats line for line whatever the current right wing Trump damage control they're spewing for that week. 

 

Months ago, when right wing media were saying "collusion is not a crime"... Vini repeated that until his face turned blue. 

 

Now, that the right wing Media's new Damage Control is "Well, unless they actually caught Trump IN THE ACT, or unless they saw him do it, or unless they have a tape of him doing it, then its not going to stick" 

 

[McWicked 825]

18 minutes ago, Goukosan said:

Vini claims not to watch right wing media... yet, time and time again... he coincidentally repeats line for line whatever the current right wing Trump damage control they're spewing for that week. 

 

Months ago, when right wing media were saying "collusion is not a crime"... Vini repeated that until his face turned blue. 

 

Now, that the right wing Media's new Damage Control is "Well, unless they actually caught Trump IN THE ACT, or unless they saw him do it, or unless they have a tape of him doing it, then its not going to stick" 

 

The goalposts always move.  Remember how collusion used to be between Trump's campaign and Russia?  They gave up on that after four of Trump's top campaign officials, including the guy who ran his campaign for the first 5 months (Manafort), his former NatSec advisor (Flynn), the 2nd in command to the guy who ran his campaign for 5 months (Gates), and a dude with multiple Russian Oligarch connections (Papadopoulos) all got flipped and plead guilty to crimes by the Mueller investigation.

 

Not only that, but the asset forfeiture from nailing Manafort literally paid for the entire investigation and then some.  Meaning the US government made a profit by appointing Mueller.  

 

When they come after Don Jr., who was in the same room as Manafort, Kushner, and the Russian Lawyer that they all kept lying about, Vini will still say "no collusion!!!"

[Vini 430]

The Three Stooges

 

@McWickedSmawt85 I'm still waiting for proof where I defended Wohl

 

@Goukosan The umpteenth time you avoid the subject and talk about my right wing sources lmao. 

 

@jehurey Talking out your ass as always yet another term ITT you're throwing around without understanding it lol

 

I can see why you dipsticks would idolize an ambulance chasing celebrity laywer shyster like Avenatti

 

Edited November 19, 2018 by Vini

[Goukosan 2,258]

1 hour ago, Vini said:

The Three Stooges

 

@McWickedSmawt85 I'm still waiting for proof where I defended Wohl

 

@Goukosan The umpteenth time you avoid the subject and talk about my right wing sources lmao. 

 

@jehurey Talking out your ass as always yet another term ITT you're throwing around without understanding it lol

 

I can see why you dipsticks would idolize an ambulance chasing celebrity laywer shyster like Avenatti

 

Hey numb nuts I already addressed the subject.   

 

Your damage control of "They have to have a recording of him for it to stick" was not a legitimate response.   Hence my comment about you just spewing the right wing spin of the month. 

 

The point of my previous post was you went from discussing whether or not he actually colluded, did campaign fraud, broke tax laws, enriching himself while in office etc...... to the new spin of what potential charges could stick. 

 

and this made up idea that I am somehow Idolize this lawyer Lmfao. 

 

Stating facts about what he accomplished is not  him being idolized... its called stating facts Vini. 

Edited November 19, 2018 by Goukosan

[jehurey 3,273]

1 hour ago, Vini said:

The Three Stooges

 

@McWickedSmawt85 I'm still waiting for proof where I defended Wohl

 

@Goukosan The umpteenth time you avoid the subject and talk about my right wing sources lmao. 

 

@jehurey Talking out your ass as always yet another term ITT you're throwing around without understanding it lol

 

I can see why you dipsticks would idolize an ambulance chasing celebrity laywer shyster like Avenatti

 

LOL he desperately tried to cling to Saucer's posts, when I literally made him run away because his logic fell apart.

 

You really are a butt-hurt Democrat hating right-wing apologist.

 

You're not a complex person. Its not like you do a good job masking what you are.

[Vini 430]

https://www.mediaite.com/online/actress-reportedly-files-domestic-violence-restraining-order-against-michael-avenatti/

 

Part of the conspiracy? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

#metoounlessyourepartoftheresistance

 

Edited November 20, 2018 by Vini

[jehurey 3,273]

5 minutes ago, Vini said:

https://www.mediaite.com/online/actress-reportedly-files-domestic-violence-restraining-order-against-michael-avenatti/

 

Part of the conspiracy? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

#metoounlessyourepartoftheresistance

 

She can definitely file a restraining order.

 

Hell, I you could file a restraining order against Avenatti. LOL

[Goukosan 2,258]

7 minutes ago, Vini said:

https://www.mediaite.com/online/actress-reportedly-files-domestic-violence-restraining-order-against-michael-avenatti/

 

Part of the conspiracy? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

#metoounlessyourepartoftheresistance

 

Wait is that the point you were trying to prove all this time? 

 

An incorrect one at that, you think MeToo only applied to the right?.. you must have not been paying attention as per usual. 

Edited November 20, 2018 by Goukosan

[jehurey 3,273]

You can tell that he still absolutely butthurt because of the Jacob Wohl, Surefire attempt at creating a sexual assault scandal for Robert Mueller, and how it went up in flames.

 

And that's because he WANTED Robert Mueller to be brought down...........because he is actively trying to see Trump get away from breaking the law.

 

Vini is actively trying to will this to happen.

[Vini 430]

3 minutes ago, Goukosan said:

Wait is that the point you were trying to prove all this time? 

.

 

That Avenatti is a dirty scumbag

[Vini 430]

8 minutes ago, jehurey said:

You can tell that he still absolutely butthurt because of the Jacob Wohl, Surefire attempt at creating a sexual assault scandal for Robert Mueller, and how it went up in flames.

 

And that's because he WANTED Robert Mueller to be brought down...........because he is actively trying to see Trump get away from breaking the law.

 

Vini is actively trying to will this to happen.

 

 

Literally my first post about Mueller accusations

 

 

 

[jehurey 3,273]

Just now, Vini said:

 

 

Literally my first post about Mueller accusations

 

 

 

Except that is this is an "obvious" smear attempt, then Democrats immediately NOT BELIEVING the accusation doesn't make them hypocrites at all.

 

So Vini................do you want to lose the argument from TODAY...........or the one from 3 weeks ago?

 

Can't believe he actually walked into that one.

[Vini 430]

24 minutes ago, jehurey said:

Except that is this is an "obvious" smear attempt, then Democrats immediately NOT BELIEVING the accusation doesn't make them hypocrites at all.

 

No it doesn't. Didn't say anything about Democrats. You're no Democrat.

 

What makes you a hypocrite is your song and dance about "honorable men" unless it's a pro Trump conservative judge in question. In that case screw his honor. 

 

Edited November 20, 2018 by Vini

[jehurey 3,273]

3 minutes ago, Vini said:

 

No it doesn't. Didn't say anything about Democrats. You're no Democrat.

 

 

I love it when Vini is scrambling that he ends up CLAIMING OTHER THINGS that are eventually going to backfire on him later on.

 

This is exactly the type of sentence that will come back to haunt him.

 

Wrong.........you were clearly talking about the hypocrisy of "liberals" who are part of the #metoo movement. And you know it.

 

We immediately saw this as dubious, and didn't even say anything until they attempted their press conference, and the information came out that Robert Mueller had an almost COMICALLY lock-tight alibi that destroyed the allegation immediately.

 

You know this. You are STILL butthurt about it, and are trying to blame SOMEBODY............but apparently that somebody you are describing has a shape-shifting definition because you're scrambling. lol

[Vini 430]

Here comes the mind reading lmao

 

Like clockwork