Playstation Tablet 1,772 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, jehurey said: I said that Xbox is going to put their resources in Streaming. This dictates how they develop games that they control (first-party, second-party). -xCloud is based on Xbox One S hardware -They want xCloud to succeed, and be their PRIMARY business, moreso than hardware -Therefore they will develop their first-party games based on Xbox One S specs as the base platform I literally said that their streaming platform was going to hold back their games, graphically, almost 3 years ago. The new Xbox hardware is so that they don't lose NEW next-gen third party games. That's all. Its probably why they weren't all that concerned with trying to out-power PS5. But now, PS5 might be a little bit more powerful than anticipated that the third parties need Microsoft to tweak their hardware a bit to come close to meeting PS5's baseline specs. If MS doesn't even care enough to push their hardware sales with software,why would third parties even care at this point. They'll get some "acceptable" port like the S does now and call it a day. There is no money in this if the hardware sales can somehow be even more anemic than One. We even saw Pro outdo the X a few times this year. Edited May 30, 2019 by Team 2019 Link to post Share on other sites
Ike★ 2,931 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Seriously, MS would probably love to move out of the hardware business. I mean besides the Xbox Brand and the MS Surface they really don't have any other hardware. Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,772 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 PS4 and One are 150 million, add all the retards that will buy Scarlett. Why sell to the 10 million that own only a Scarlett? Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,818 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Stream your games on PC and other consoles Play your games natively on PC Play gamepass on PC Play your games on your old xbox Why are we gonna buy the new xbox ? They better have some hidden magic to make this a next gen console because it's starting to sound like another refresh. Link to post Share on other sites
James Skywalker 528 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Is the next Xbox going to be called Scarlet or is it still unknown and speculation? Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,772 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 24 minutes ago, JONBpc said: Stream your games on PC and other consoles Play your games natively on PC Play gamepass on PC Play your games on your old xbox Why are we gonna buy the new xbox ? They better have some hidden magic to make this a next gen console because it's starting to sound like another refresh. They have two boxes coming. I can see Anaconda making sense assuming it's more powerful than PS5, if it's not, it's going to be in a world of pain. The Lockhart model though becomes a joke, what's the point of that thing. In the end it doesn't even matter, it's unacceptable not to have next gen only games. Your think PC, Scarlett and XCloud would be more than enough for next gen only games. Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,339 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 36 minutes ago, JONBpc said: Stream your games on PC and other consoles Play your games natively on PC Play gamepass on PC Play your games on your old xbox Why are we gonna buy the new xbox ? They better have some hidden magic to make this a next gen console because it's starting to sound like another refresh. They care more about services than hardware now... once you subscribe to gamepass... XCloud or XBL... they consider you a customer. MS knows they can't win the WW hardware sales race.... so they're jumping all in on services... Which in the end is better for the consumer of course... less reason to purchase multiple console hardware....Purchase one (PS4 or Nintendo) and then subscribe to Xbox services. Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,772 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Now I'm really curious about their E3 conference, this is going to go very different from what the lemming loyal like Dynamite expect. Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,818 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, Goukosan said: They care more about services than hardware now... once you subscribe to gamepass... XCloud or XBL... they consider you a customer. MS knows they can't win the WW hardware sales race.... so they're jumping all in on services... Which in the end is better for the consumer of course... less reason to purchase multiple console hardware....Purchase one (PS4 or Nintendo) and then subscribe to Xbox services. But in order for the services to continue to gain ground they need 3rd party support . They need to console to succeed as well . Link to post Share on other sites
102020393023445948594 2,223 Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, Team 2019 said: Now I'm really curious about their E3 conference, this is going to go very different from what the lemming loyal like Dynamite expect. I'm telling you, this E3 is the white flag waving ceremony. Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,313 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Third parties want the Xbox console to be very close in power to the PS5 console so that the port job is EASY. They don't want to put effort in making an Xbox 4 port for a hardware base that is going to sell even less than XBO. If Xbox 4 comes within 95% of the power of PS5, they just allow screen-tearing and/or dynamic resolution and they're done. The "Scarlett" cheaper version is supposed to be a 1080p machine, so they just drop the resolution and they're done with that. If Xbox 4 is closer to 90% of the power of PS5, then they'd actually have to work to do optimizations. That's actually more expensive for them. Link to post Share on other sites
102020393023445948594 2,223 Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 yeah, there's no way xflop's new models match PS5. they have 0 financial incentive to match or exceed it. they're phoning it in next gen with 2 new flop models and milking their western 3rd party support, that's about it. Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,772 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, Bodycount N said: I'm telling you, this E3 is the white flag waving ceremony. After the COD crossplay and Sony/MS partnership bullshit, I think there is a chance cows walk out of MS's E3 with Gears 5 with crossplay THIS year. Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,818 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, Team 2019 said: After the COD crossplay and Sony/MS partnership bullshit, I think there is a chance cows walk out of MS's E3 with Gears 5 with crossplay THIS year. Let's make a bet . Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,772 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Just now, JONBpc said: Let's make a bet . Switch is guaranteed imo. PS is highly unlikely this E3. But I could take a bet for fun. Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,818 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 That's Gears 5 will be announced cross play on ps5 .. ok name your terms lmao idiot Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,772 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, JONBpc said: That's Gears 5 will be announced cross play on ps5 .. ok name your terms lmao idiot Name change. Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,832 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 2 hours ago, JONBpc said: Sounds like high end PC gaming thhbo Sounds like Xbox gaming. PC and PS5 will just leave them behind... Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,772 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) Honestly though are they seriously not even going to put up a fight next-gen? Does anyone honestly think that Phil got an amazing lose leader budget for this thing hardwarewise? Edited May 30, 2019 by Team 2019 Link to post Share on other sites
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