DynamiteCop 2,086 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 With early drivers it looks like the 5700 XT bests the RTX 2070 overall however it does not surpass the 2070 Super, it's still a little behind. However there is a caveat to this, obviously there's the drivers and there is also the 5700 XT 50th which is not listed in the benchmark results but is a more powerful card so it will be interesting to see where that lands. In general it appears AMD have essentially achieved parity with Nvidia outside of their 2080 line of cards and ironically AMD's offerings are more power efficient. https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt-and-rx-5700-review-leaks-out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hot Sauce 2,734 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 The XT seems pretty disappointing. Regular version seems like an alright deal, but like I'd still probably take a 2060 Super for $20 more to get better cooling and the RT cores. Will wait for 7/7 and up-to-date driver benchmarks, though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,681 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 45 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: With early drivers it looks like the 5700 XT bests the RTX 2070 overall however it does not surpass the 2070 Super, it's still a little behind. However there is a caveat to this, obviously there's the drivers and there is also the 5700 XT 50th which is not listed in the benchmark results but is a more powerful card so it will be interesting to see where that lands. In general it appears AMD have essentially achieved parity with Nvidia outside of their 2080 line of cards and ironically AMD's offerings are more power efficient. Ironically AMD's offerings are more power efficient????? They're fucking 7nm cards compared to 12nm... rofl Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,086 Posted July 4, 2019 Author Share Posted July 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Remij_ said: Ironically AMD's offerings are more power efficient????? They're fucking 7nm cards compared to 12nm... rofl Yeah, but all the same it's surprising for them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Mother Fucker 26 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 RX 5700 XT was never meant to go up against a RTX 2070 Super. IDC anyways, I'm not buying any more GPUs. and the only reason I'm going to get a Ryzen 3000 CPU because I sold one of my Ryzen 2000. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,086 Posted July 5, 2019 Author Share Posted July 5, 2019 1 hour ago, The Mother Fucker said: RX 5700 XT was never meant to go up against a RTX 2070 Super. IDC anyways, I'm not buying any more GPUs. and the only reason I'm going to get a Ryzen 3000 CPU because I sold one of my Ryzen 2000. While true the 50th might have been created to compete with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Mother Fucker 26 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: While true the 50th might have been created to compete with it. I'm in the same opinion of what other tech reviewers have said and that Nvidia's SUPER caught AMD off guard. AMD made those mid-range NAVI GPUs to target Nvidia's RTX 2060 and 2070 lineup. As evidence of what AMD displayed at Computex, they had no idea of SUPER existence which negated all those performance gains AMD showed. I personally don't think either card is worth it, unless you have no GPU, or a very old GPU, like a Fermi based GPU and haven't upgraded and if that's the case, best option nvidia is still GTX 1660 Ti, and best option for AMD is VEGA 56. Edited July 5, 2019 by The Mother Fucker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,098 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Looks like AMD is backing off the announced prices. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Mother Fucker 26 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 They should have dropped the prices by $50 not $30. A $329 RX 5700 looks a lot more obtainable, than nvidia's $349 RTX 2060. It could undercut it in both performance and price. same for a $379 RX 5700 XT. The anniversary edition with it's small OC should be $399. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,086 Posted July 5, 2019 Author Share Posted July 5, 2019 5 hours ago, lynux3 said: Looks like AMD is backing off the announced prices. They don't even need to but this puts them in a considerably better position. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hot Sauce 2,734 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: They don't even need to From a business perspective they definitely had to. Nobody was going to buy a 5700 when they could have got a 2060 Super for $20 more or an 5700 XT when they could get a 2070 Super for $50 more. The brand recognition, cooling, and features just aren't there for similar performance to be worth saving that amount of money. They also needed something to get these cards to the forefront of discussions considering the Super announcement completely undercut the launch. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,681 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Hot Sauce said: From a business perspective they definitely had to. Nobody was going to buy a 5700 when they could have got a 2060 Super for $20 more or an 5700 XT when they could get a 2070 Super for $50 more. The brand recognition, cooling, and features just aren't there for similar performance to be worth saving that amount of money. They also needed something to get these cards to the forefront of discussions considering the Super announcement completely undercut the launch. Exactly. Even with these prices, Nvidia's GPUs are going to out sell them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,086 Posted July 5, 2019 Author Share Posted July 5, 2019 It's official. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,632 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Pricing is good Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,098 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, Remij_ said: I guess it's better than releasing an entirely new product line and pretending like you didn't fuck up the initial launch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,086 Posted July 5, 2019 Author Share Posted July 5, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, lynux3 said: I guess it's better than releasing an entirely new product line and pretending like you didn't fuck up the initial launch. "We fucked up so here are these Super cards intended to make up for that, but AMD is going to surpass and come near to them in performance for $100 less" "Please buy them" 5700 XT is going to become the new GTX 970, calling it now. Edited July 5, 2019 by DynamiteCop! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,681 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 1 minute ago, lynux3 said: I guess it's better than releasing an entirely new product line and pretending like you didn't fuck up the initial launch. Even Nvidia's fucked up launches are better than AMD's year late with less features, worse performance and damage control price cuts before launch Funny thing is.. AMD was set to charge their fans $50 more and they would have gladly done it if Nvidia didn't chin check them. Now they know their GPUs are worse.. so here we are Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,086 Posted July 5, 2019 Author Share Posted July 5, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Remij_ said: Even Nvidia's fucked up launches are better than AMD's year late with less features, worse performance and damage control price cuts before launch Funny thing is.. AMD was set to charge their fans $50 more and they would have gladly done it if Nvidia didn't chin check them. Now they know their GPUs are worse.. so here we are Or it's the obvious which everyone but you is catching onto, we all knew Super was coming, they undoubtedly knew much sooner so they advertised a higher price to bait Nvidia, Nvidia gets set in stone with it and releases and then they undercut that price and release immediately after. Edited July 5, 2019 by DynamiteCop! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,681 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: "We fucked up so here are these Super cards intended to make up for that, but AMD is going to surpass and come near to them in performance for $100 less" "Please buy them" 5700 XT is going to become the new GTX 970, calling it now. You idiots ACTUALLY think Nvidia's super cards are "making up for their past cards" when there was non existent competition They completely spoiled AMD's launch, and now AMD sulkily has to cut the prices further. I love how clear as day it is that AMD knows that nobody will buy their GPUs at Nvidia prices. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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