lynux3 2,119 Posted September 28, 2019 Author Share Posted September 28, 2019 1 minute ago, DynamiteCop! said: You are beyond retarded. No, you both are retarded. http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/09/death_stranding_wont_require_ps_plus_to_access_multiplayer_features_on_ps4 https://www.ladbible.com/technology/gaming-death-stranding-online-features-wont-need-playstation-plus-20190927 https://metro.co.uk/2019/09/26/death-standing-has-gone-gold-and-ps-plus-is-not-required-for-online-10810681/ https://www.vg247.com/2019/09/26/death-stranding-online-multiplayer-doesnt-require-playstation-plus/ https://www.tweaktown.com/news/67807/death-strandings-unique-multiplayer-require-ps-plus/index.html 7 minutes ago, lynux3 said: You both have reading comprehension issues apparently. Once again, read the thread title and the supporting evidence. Here let me help you both by making the text bigger and throwing in some color. Thread title: "Death Stranding has gone gold; doesn't require PlayStation Plus for online" Label: "DEATH STRANDING™ does not require PlayStation®Plus subscription" You understand what is going on now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,087 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Just now, lynux3 said: No, you both are retarded. http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/09/death_stranding_wont_require_ps_plus_to_access_multiplayer_features_on_ps4 https://www.ladbible.com/technology/gaming-death-stranding-online-features-wont-need-playstation-plus-20190927 https://metro.co.uk/2019/09/26/death-standing-has-gone-gold-and-ps-plus-is-not-required-for-online-10810681/ https://www.vg247.com/2019/09/26/death-stranding-online-multiplayer-doesnt-require-playstation-plus/ https://www.tweaktown.com/news/67807/death-strandings-unique-multiplayer-require-ps-plus/index.html Every single one of these idiots has completely misunderstood what that is saying. It's quite clear to anyone with the slightest bit of observation, it's telling you that it's not an online only game i.e. "Death Stranding does not require a PlayStation Plus Subscription" to play the game , but in the event you want to make use of multiplayer functionality a PlayStation Plus subscription is required and is sold separately. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,119 Posted September 28, 2019 Author Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: Every single one of these idiots has completely misunderstood what that is saying. It's quite clear to anyone with the slightest bit of observation, it's telling you that it's not an online only game i.e. "Death Stranding does not require a PlayStation Plus Subscription" to play the game , but in the event you want to make use of multiplayer functionality a PlayStation Plus subscription is required and is sold separately. I guess we'll find out on Nov. 8th who the real idiot is. Edited September 28, 2019 by lynux3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,087 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 1 minute ago, lynux3 said: I guess we'll find out on Nov. 8th who the real idiot is. There's no need to wait, it's as clear as day to anyone who's not a fucking idiot. It would say "Death Stranding does not require a PlayStation Plus subscription for online play". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,119 Posted September 28, 2019 Author Share Posted September 28, 2019 1 minute ago, DynamiteCop! said: There's no need to wait, it's as clear as day to anyone who's not a fucking idiot. It would say "Death Stranding does not require a PlayStation Plus subscription for online play". Bookmarked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,690 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Regardless of who ends up right or wrong. I agree with DynamiteCop. Reading it as it is.. it's obvious that they're saying PS+ is required to play online for the console in general.. but Death Stranding (the bundled game) doesn't require a PS+ subscription since you don't require multiplayer for it. It's a way of saying "this game we're giving you in the bundle doesn't require you to spend another $60" or whatever it is... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,087 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Just now, Remij_ said: Regardless of who ends up right or wrong. I agree with DynamiteCop. Reading it as it is.. it's obvious that they're saying PS+ is required to play online for the console in general.. but Death Stranding (the bundled game) doesn't require a PS+ subscription since you don't require multiplayer for it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,119 Posted September 28, 2019 Author Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Remij_ said: Regardless of who ends up right or wrong. I agree with DynamiteCop. Reading it as it is.. it's obvious that they're saying PS+ is required to play online for the console in general.. but Death Stranding (the bundled game) doesn't require a PS+ subscription since you don't require multiplayer for it. It's a way of saying "this game we're giving you in the bundle doesn't require you to spend another $60" or whatever it is... No, this is not how it reads, but I can understand how you can be mislead to that. If this was the case you might as well slap that label on all single player games... which after almost 6 years is a given that PlayStation Plus isn't required to play a single player game. Why start now? Here's where the gap is in understanding why that label exists. Death Stranding's "multiplayer" is asynchronous/non-synchronous which means it's not happening in real time. https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2019/05/30/death-stranding-multiplayer-asynchronous/#/slide/1 Quote According to PlayStation.com, Death Stranding will allow players to “assist” one another. What this amounts to is an asynchronous multiplayer experience, which receives a succinct outline in the following description: “Help other travellers without ever crossing paths via asynchronous online gameplay. Send supplies, share safe houses and walk in the footsteps of fellow couriers to reunite civilization.” PlayStation Plus's policy regarding online multiplayer: Quote You also do not need to be a member of PlayStation Plus to play non-synchronous games on the PlayStation 4. Synchronous games are games where two consoles need to be synched up to communicate with each other in real time - for example if you are playing co-op or competition mode on a shooting or racing game. Non-synchronous games mean that the two consoles do not need to be communicating in real time – for example when playing turn based games like chess. Edited September 28, 2019 by lynux3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,690 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, lynux3 said: No, this is not how it reads, but I can understand how you can be mislead to that. If this was the case you might as well slap that label on all single player games... which after almost 6 years is a given that PlayStation Plus isn't required to play a single player game. Why start now? Here's where the gap is in understanding why that label exists. Death Stranding's "multiplayer" is asynchronous/non-synchronous which means it's not happening in real time. https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2019/05/30/death-stranding-multiplayer-asynchronous/#/slide/1 PlayStation Plus's policy regarding online multiplayer: It reads exactly like it reads. You saying "no it doesn't.. it reads like this..." and then listing a bunch of shit that you'd "have to know" in order for it to read that way... doesn't help your argument. I already told you I don't give a shit who's right. I'm sure Death Stranding doesn't require PS+... who really fucking cares? The game doesn't require an internet connection... and it lets you play online without PS+. Yay! That game where you interact with people in an asynchronous manner doesn't require $60 a month extra... which you're likely already paying for or were going to pay for anyway... whoop de-fucking-doo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,119 Posted September 28, 2019 Author Share Posted September 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, Remij_ said: It reads exactly like it reads. You saying "no it doesn't.. it reads like this..." and then listing a bunch of shit that you'd "have to know" in order for it to read that way... doesn't help your argument. I already told you I don't give a shit who's right. I'm sure Death Stranding doesn't require PS+... who really fucking cares? The game doesn't require an internet connection... and it lets you play online without PS+. Yay! That game where you interact with people in an asynchronous manner doesn't require $60 a month extra... which you're likely already paying for or were going to pay for anyway... whoop de-fucking-doo. It's well documented that Sony is required to make it clear about PlayStation Plus requirements in the EU which is why this label only exists on EU packaging. If you don't care then GTFO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,690 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Just now, lynux3 said: It's well documented that Sony is required to make it clear about PlayStation Plus requirements in the EU which is why this label only exists on EU packaging. If you don't care then GTFO. WHOOP-DE-FUCKING-DOO~~~ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,588 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 The context that is being missed is that that is the label on the DS Pro bundle. Not the game. meaning the initial statement is reference to needing ps plus sub for MP on the PS4 pro console (for other games). A label that is on every console sold in certain regions. That statement is then followed up by saying that DS doesn’t require ps plus at all. So basically, ‘you need Plus for MP games however you don’t need it for the game that is bundled’. Definitely a little confusing and can be interpreted multiple ways but I think Lynux is right. Whatever shared world DS has won’t require PS Plus, whether it be some dark souls esque stuff or more. I doubt it had a dedicated MP mode. We’ll see soon enough Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Twinblade★ 3,937 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 That’s good, I didn’t want to sign up just for this game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spicalicious 128 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) On 2019-09-28 at 1:36 AM, Remij_ said: Regardless of who ends up right or wrong. I agree with DynamiteCop. Reading it as it is.. it's obvious that they're saying PS+ is required to play online for the console in general.. but Death Stranding (the bundled game) doesn't require a PS+ subscription since you don't require multiplayer for it. It's a way of saying "this game we're giving you in the bundle doesn't require you to spend another $60" or whatever it is... why the hell don't I get any credit. I'm the first person to point it out in this thread wasn't I? /thread @lynux3owned /bookmarked. Edited September 29, 2019 by Spicalicious Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spicalicious 128 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 reading 101 is in Jims wasteland. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,119 Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Spicalicious said: why the hell don't I get any credit. I'm the first person to point it out in this thread wasn't I? /thread @lynux3owned /bookmarked. Typically games that require PlayStation Plus will also be labeled as such in the PlayStation Store. Death Stranding is not one of them. Edited September 30, 2019 by lynux3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,119 Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 9 hours ago, Spicalicious said: reading 101 is in Jims wasteland. Bookmarked pleb. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spicalicious 128 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, lynux3 said: Typically games that require PlayStation Plus will also be labeled as such in the PlayStation Store. Death Stranding is not one of them. Yeah the online aspect like in Dark souls is free otherwise it would break the game. Whether or not the game has actual multiplayer is something else entirely. Edited September 30, 2019 by Spicalicious Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,119 Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Spicalicious said: Yeah the online aspect like in Dark souls is free otherwise it would break the game. Whether or not the game has actual multiplayer is something else entirely. It's already confirmed to have non-synchronous multiplayer, this isn't a question of that. The question is the interpretation of the label, and so far it doesn't line up with you or DynamiteCop. Death Stranding's non-synchronous multiplayer simply doesn't require Plus as indicated by the label. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,119 Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 On 2019-09-28 at 12:34 AM, DynamiteCop! said: There's no need to wait, it's as clear as day to anyone who's not a fucking idiot. It would say "Death Stranding does not require a PlayStation Plus subscription for online play". 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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