Rumour: WindowsCentral - Inside the target specs of the next Xbox 'Project Scarlett,' 'Anaconda', and 'Lockhart'

[Playstation Tablet 1,725]

Anaconda is targeting 12tflop RDNA and 3.5ghz Ryzen. Next gen will be insane.

 

Microsoft is gearing up to reveal Xbox "Scarlett" in full in the near future, and we've finally got some credible information on the target specs.

We believe the information we've received below from multiple sources, but as always, take these rumors with a pinch of salt until we get official confirmation from Microsoft itself. Plans can and do change as we move towards production. Xbox Scarlett is due to launch in 2020, in time for the holiday season.

n the 2019 reveal video, Xbox cloud architect Kareem Choudhry said Scarlett could "eat monsters for breakfast," and indeed, Anaconda looks as though it will be able to. According to several sources familiar with Microsoft's plans, Anaconda is targeting around 12 teraflops (TF) of computing power, compared to the Xbox One X's 6TF, and the Xbox One S's 1.2. Lockhart conversely will sport around 4TF, and according to marketing materials we've seen previously, it is being positioned as the most-affordable entry point to next-gen experiences.

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Both Lockhart and Anaconda reportedly sport eight CPU cores targetting around 3.5GHz, with Anaconda reaching a bit higher per core than Lockhart. The relatively modest increase in clock speed over the previous-gen systems may seem mild, but vast improvements to caching, new silicon architecture, and other general bespoke, proprietary optimizations will see Anaconda perform anywhere up to four to five times better than the Xbox One X, if targets are met. We're told that Scarlett will guarantee 13GB of RAM for games, with 3GB on the OS a total of 16GB. The X, by comparison, offered a "maximum" of 9GB for games, which often varied based on what the OS was doing.

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Games with load times anywhere up to a minute will be reduced to mere seconds as a result of these SSDs, and the inclusion of Project XCloud across all Xbox systems will allow you to start gaming via streaming while waiting for games to download locally.

[Remij 4,676]

Less RAM than I would have expected.  Slightly better compute.

 

Still.. should be a beast  

[jehurey 3,230]

Wait a minute, what is "Anaconda" in all of this?

 

You're not interchanging it with "Scarlett" right? You are talking about 3 distinct systems? Anaconda, Scarlett, and Lockhart?

[Playstation Tablet 1,725]

Just now, jehurey said:

Wait a minute, what is "Anaconda" in all of this?

 

You're not interchanging it with "Scarlett" right? You are talking about 3 distinct systems? Anaconda, Scarlett, and Lockhart?

Scarlett is the family of systems. Anaconda the PS5 power system and Lockhart the down syndrome edition for 1080p.

[Teh_Diplomat 2,054]

But most importantly, the Lemmings will be owned, yes?

[Remij 4,676]

1 minute ago, jehurey said:

Wait a minute, what is "Anaconda" in all of this?

 

You're not interchanging it with "Scarlett" right? You are talking about 3 distinct systems? Anaconda, Scarlett, and Lockhart?

No.  Scarlett is the codename of the next generation of xbox.  Anaconda is the high end, Lockhart is the low end.

 

There's not 3 different things.

[James Skywalker 528]

Everyone’s saying fuck the next Jen.

[Remij 4,676]

Leak from a while back

 

 

Seems to be accurate.

 

Thing is that is says they both will have a 1+ GB/s NVMe SSD.  That's.. not that fast.  I mean, it's fast... about 2x faster than a typical SATA SSD which is usually around 500-550MB/s.

 

So I'm guessing that's either wrong, or was outdated.

[Playstation Tablet 1,725]

Well Cerny had a slow SSD model when he first demoed it for the wire article.

 

[Remij 4,676]

These things aren't going to be $399... which is why MS must be doing Lockhart in the first place.  That means $499 is the most likely price point for Anaconda and PS5.

 

Maybe PS5 will come in at around 10-11TF and be cheaper?

[Remij 4,676]

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Lockhart:
8 core Zen2 at 3.0ghz+
12GB GDDR6
4TF+ 32 ROPS, RDNA 2.0 RT, VRS
1TB SSD
 
Anaconda:
8 core Zen2 at 3.0ghz+
16GB GDDR6
12TF+ 64 ROPS, RDNA 2.0 RT, VRS
1TB SSD
 
Anaconda targets were boosted from 10TF to 12TF in late 2018. Third party developers only have the outdated specs as of the time this Pastebin was written.
 
For comparison, Oberon devkits are 10.24 TF at the time of this writing.
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Sounds like MS bumped up the specs in late 2018, which is why devs have been using outdated kits and thought PS5 was going to be faster...

 

lol.. surprise!  

[Playstation Tablet 1,725]

5 minutes ago, Remij_ said:

These things aren't going to be $399... which is why MS must be doing Lockhart in the first place.  That means $499 is the most likely price point for Anaconda and PS5.

 

Maybe PS5 will come in at around 10-11TF and be cheaper?

You aren't saving shit by such a small Apu shrink to justify a 100 dollar difference.

 

Honestly Sony can probably afford to take a hit with PlayStation I performing, but still a questionable ide

[jehurey 3,230]

3 minutes ago, Remij_ said:

Sounds like MS bumped up the specs in late 2018, which is why devs have been using outdated kits and thought PS5 was going to be faster...

 

lol.. surprise!  

Its one thing to have outdated documentation for the third-party developers.

 

But these third-party developers would still be communicating with their partners at Microsoft, and they wouldn't intentionally leave them in the dark about them bumping the power in the future.

 

So these developers would still have an idea of final console's power at some point during 2019. If not on official documentation, then through casual means of communication.

[JonDnD 2,624]

8 minutes ago, Remij_ said:

Sounds like MS bumped up the specs in late 2018, which is why devs have been using outdated kits and thought PS5 was going to be faster...

 

lol.. surprise!  

Sounds like TCHBR

[Remij 4,676]

19 minutes ago, jehurey said:

Its one thing to have outdated documentation for the third-party developers.

 

But these third-party developers would still be communicating with their partners at Microsoft, and they wouldn't intentionally leave them in the dark about them bumping the power in the future.

 

So these developers would still have an idea of final console's power at some point during 2019. If not on official documentation, then through casual means of communication.

Well, they wouldn't be left out in the dark.  They would know the baseline of what to expect.  Anything above that really doesn't affect their capacity to create the games they are making.  If it was downgrading, then that would be an issue.  Of course devs know that things are liable to change.  So while they'd have an idea, they couldn't say for sure that one was better than the other... especially by x% like insiders were claiming.

 

With the info that hardly anyone outside of MS had new kits... it's easy to see how the misinformation could spread about Sony's kits being more powerful.  They very well could have been (maybe still are) but that's based on outdated information.

 

[JonDnD 2,624]

Streaming your game while it downloads is a nice feature .

 

Nvidia better half the price of those 2080Tis cause X is gonna give it to ya 

[TLHBO 2,162]

Thinking xbox has a future

[Remij 4,676]

4 minutes ago, JONBpc said:

Streaming your game while it downloads is a nice feature .

 

Nvidia better half the price of those 2080Tis cause X is gonna give it to ya 

 

 

By this time next year, Nvidia will have 18-20TF gpus out.... on a new architecture and process node... That's well BEFORE the gen even starts.

[kaz 2,439]

57 minutes ago, Teh_Diplomat said:

But most importantly, the Lemmings will be owned, yes?

anaconda is a metal dildo

[Remij 4,676]

LOL rumor is that Sony's dev kits are at 10TF, but that they had to downclock them to 9TF because they couldn't keep them cool enough...

 

If PS5 is ~9TF and Anaconda 12TF... lol ouch that would be big.

Edited December 9, 2019 by Remij_