jehurey 3,241 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 41 minutes ago, Vini said: UBI is not an alt right talking point lmao That's not strategy that's attempting to solve a morally and practically unsolvable equation. People born today had no participation as individuals in slavery they don't deserve to be punished for it or it's continued effects. How are you going to tell a poor white man his black neighbor deserves more than he does for reasons he has no control over? Maybe learn to read, I said that HIGHER UBI would need to be given to black people...........this stoking your alt-right buddies. And you just FUCKED YOUR OWN arguement. Because you have PROVEN that the American government can institute a program meant to solve a moral problem. That's what UBI is, dumbass. UBI solves the problem of extreme poverty (at least its meant to). So, while you are here saying that we can't institute a program meant to solve the moral problem of 100 million Americans, you propose solve a moral problem for 300 million Americans. LOL And lastly..................IN-STI-TUT-ION-AL racism. Do you understand what living in a historic lower-class neighborhoods today in 2019 mean? We have neighborhoods that have NO GROCERY STORES FOR MILES because its a historically black lower-income area. Poor white man still has more opportunities than a poor black man..............listen, buddy, if you can't wrap your head around that, nobody can help you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McWicked 825 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 5 hours ago, Goukosan said: "give him a chance" "I like him" "he stopped lobbying" "I belive him at his word". You blame the left for yourself being a colossus idiot The left made him say all of those things because of Brie Larson and Gillette ads. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vini 430 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 minute ago, jehurey said: Maybe learn to read, I said that HIGHER UBI would need to be given to black people...........this stoking your alt-right buddies. lol Jerry there's no such thing as HIGHER UBI. UBI is universal basic income. Means the same income for everyone. Not based on racial oppression. MLK wasn't for higher UBI for black people, he was for UBI for everyone. Because he transcended his vengeful inclinations which you still seem to have trouble with 1 minute ago, jehurey said: So, while you are here saying that we can't institute a program meant to solve the moral problem of 100 million Americans, you propose solve a moral problem for 300 million Americans. LOL And lastly..................IN-STI-TUT-ION-AL racism. Do you understand what living in a historic lower-class neighborhoods today in 2019 mean? We have neighborhoods that have NO GROCERY STORES FOR MILES because its a historically black lower-income area. Poor white man still has more opportunities than a poor black man..............listen, buddy, if you can't wrap your head around that, nobody can help you. All of this is true and none of it is solvable or undoable. The only thing we can do is lift the tide and hopefully it lifts all boats. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,241 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, Vini said: lol Jerry there's no such thing as HIGHER UBI. UBI is universal basic income. Means the same income for everyone. Not based on racial oppression. MLK wasn't for higher UBI for black people, he was for UBI for everyone. Because he transcended his vengeful inclinations which you still seem to have trouble with All of this is true and none of it is solvable or undoable. The only thing we can do is lift the tide and hopefully it lifts all boats. Yes it is solvable because you already support UBI...............which solves the moral problem of inequality for 300 million people. So reparations for 100 million people for economically benefiting off of them from slavery = not solvable But solving the problem on extreme inequality for 300 million people = totally solvable. You just fucked YOUR OWN argument. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,241 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Let's take a moment to emphasize that Vini is now venting about reparations for black people in the Brie Larson thread. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, complaining about women's empowerment and that somehow leads into complaining about black people. Why, gee golly Vini doesn't align himself with alt-right'ers AT ALL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vini 430 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, jehurey said: Yes it is solvable because you already support UBI...............which solves the moral problem of inequality for 300 million people. So reparations for 100 million people for economically benefiting off of them from slavery = not solvable But solving the problem on extreme inequality for 300 million people = totally solvable. You just fucked YOUR OWN argument. Yes that's exactly correct. You can't equalize past oppression without pissing off half the population and making things worse. It's not a simple math formula Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vini 430 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 UBI is easier, less controversial, garners universal support and addresses the same problems Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,241 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Vini said: Yes that's exactly correct. You can't equalize past oppression without pissing off half the population and making things worse. It's not a simple math formula Sorry..........."pissing off half the population" simply isn't a good argument. By your logic, we're already pissing off OVER HALF the population by having welfare. Yet somehow, the government still exists. That's simply a weak excuse. If that's all you got, then you got nothing. You just fucked up your OWN argument..................we CAN do reparations for 100 million black people, because that's actually easier to institute than UBI. Thanks for that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vini 430 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, jehurey said: By your logic, we're already pissing off OVER HALF the population by having welfare. Yet somehow, the government still exists. We did, and it sucks. UBI will replace welfare, it's the next level. In Yang's proposal for example you lose welfare if you opt in for UBI Edited April 10, 2019 by Vini Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vini 430 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, jehurey said: Let's take a moment to emphasize that Vini is now venting about reparations for black people in the Brie Larson thread. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, complaining about women's empowerment and that somehow leads into complaining about black people. Why, gee golly Vini doesn't align himself with alt-right'ers AT ALL. This is a thread started by a smug SJW featuring me shitting on smug SJWs On topic as fuck Edited April 10, 2019 by Vini Quote Link to post Share on other sites
54212 432 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 The progs' platform of Woke Communism is pretty funny. The government is Santa Clause and we're going to rig the system to create a permanent Democrat lock on power. Medicaid-for-all UBI Free college Reparations Fund Green New Deal 70% top marginal tax rate Pack the Supreme Court Lower the voting age to 16 Puerto Rico and DC statehood or better yet abolish the Senate Abolish the Electoral College De facto open borders Citizenship for illegals Ban guns Impose hate speech laws Intersectional rule of law They seem determined to get Trump re-elected. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,241 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Vini said: We did, and it sucks. UBI will replace welfare, it's the next level. In Yang's proposal for example you lose welfare if you opt in for UBI Like I said.........you already proposed something in which half the population would be upset of. Which means you just debunked you're last argument about reparations. I wasn't talking about welfare in any other sense other than that being a program that "pisses half of the population". That was your only argument, and that's been debunked. 1 hour ago, Vini said: This is a thread started by a smug SJW featuring me shitting on smug SJWs On topic as fuck No, you're pretty much checking off the alt-right checklist. Which..........is KINDA the point. LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,258 Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 look how triggered the right are... a thread about a movie making a billion dollars has them in tears Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,644 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I think the left was in tears before the thread was made . Created to point fingers to sooth the pain they have Gooberson is a flat put liar too LOL . 30 some year old LIAR . Pathetic LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,241 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 38 minutes ago, Goukosan said: look how triggered the right are... a thread about a movie making a billion dollars has them in tears Vini got so damn mad he started talking about reparations for black people. I guess he needed something to make himself feel good: the prospect of telling the ancestors of people whom we committed the biggest injustice to fuck off. Guess he knew he was bitter and was hoping to find somebody to point to and say: well, at least I'm not as bitter as them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vini 430 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 this dude lmao Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vini 430 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 4 hours ago, Saucer said: The progs' platform of Woke Communism is pretty funny. The government is Santa Clause and we're going to rig the system to create a permanent Democrat lock on power. Medicaid-for-all UBI Free college Reparations Fund Green New Deal 70% top marginal tax rate Pack the Supreme Court Lower the voting age to 16 Puerto Rico and DC statehood or better yet abolish the Senate Abolish the Electoral College De facto open borders Citizenship for illegals Ban guns Impose hate speech laws Intersectional rule of law They seem determined to get Trump re-elected. I suggest you do some research on UBI and the sort of bipartisan support it has garnered in the past Doesn't belong on that list Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McWicked 825 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 4 hours ago, Goukosan said: look how triggered the right are... a thread about a movie making a billion dollars has them in tears Brie's gonna be the thor of the next phase of the MCU and they are straight livid about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
54212 432 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Vini said: I suggest you do some research on UBI and the sort of bipartisan support it has garnered in the past Doesn't belong on that list It's the priciest socialist welfare program on the list, it's not means tested, and the moral hazards are almost entirely untested. I think it's irresponsible to pitch implementing it wholesale at this point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vini 430 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 6 hours ago, Saucer said: It's the priciest socialist welfare program on the list, it's not means tested, and the moral hazards are almost entirely untested. I think it's irresponsible to pitch implementing it wholesale at this point. I disagree. The only hazard is that it would disincentivize work which hasn't happened in parts of the world it has been tested Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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