Microsoft cash on hand - most of any company in the world. Sony cash on hand - not even top 10

[Vini 430]

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/07/microsoft-apple-and-alphabet-are-sitting-on-more-than-100-billion-in-cash.html

 

 

 

Sony - 25B

 

Who can take more short term price risks and bets on a new console? Do the math

 

 

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means nothing for gaming, xbox is limited by how few consoles it has sold. 

 

[Vini 430]

4 minutes ago, Bodycount VII said:

means nothing for gaming, xbox is limited by how few consoles it has sold. 

 

 

This is a ridiculous statement. Microsoft is the most powerful company in the world. 

 

They can if they decide to invest 10 times as much as Sony on first party games without even breaking a sweat. If the calculus last gen was exclusives move consoles guess what Microsoft is investing in this gen. 

 

Edited May 30, 2020 by Vini

[DynamiteCop 2,088]

3 minutes ago, Vini said:

 

This is a ridiculous statement. Microsoft is the most powerful company in the world. 

 

They can if they decide to invest 10 times as much as Sony on first party games without even breaking a sweat. If the calculus last gen was exclusives move consoles guess what Microsoft is investing in this gen. 

 

Don't pay attention to these fags, they'll never decouple Sony's other business ventures and gladly tabulate their total sum as a company, but Microsoft?

 

"tHaT dOeN't CoUnT, tHe WhOlE cOmPaNy IsN't ThEiR gAmInG dIvIsIoN!"

 

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2 minutes ago, Vini said:

 

This is a ridiculous statement. Microsoft is the most powerful company in the world. 

 

They can if they decide to invest 10 times as much as Sony on first party games without even breaking a sweat. 

 

no they can't, because they'll never recoup the investment because no one will buy said game, as no one has said console.

 

sony is the market leader and that's why they get all the 3rd party marketing deals, exclusives, and can afford to make big budget games. they can sell to 110 million potential customers and MS can only count on 40.

 

really, the sales of a console are everything. It doesn't matter what MS is worth, for instance if they ever wanted to get Call of Duty map packs back they'd have to pay activision 3x as much as what sony is paying them. 

 

And they don't do that, even though microsoft has more money as you say. they'll never recoup the costs on their paltry userbase, and activision will gain nothing, and lose 66% of their customers in the process.

 

microsoft can't do shit until they sell more consoles.

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3 minutes ago, Bodycount VII said:

no they can't, because they'll never recoup the investment because no one will buy said game, as no one has said console.

  

sony is the market leader and that's why they get all the 3rd party marketing deals, exclusives, and can afford to make big budget games. they can sell to 110 million potential customers and MS can only count on 40.

 

really, the sales of a console are everything. It doesn't matter what MS is worth, for instance if they ever wanted to get Call of Duty map packs back they'd have to pay activision 3x as much as what sony is paying them. 

 

And they don't do that, even though microsoft has more money as you say. they'll never recoup the costs on their paltry userbase, and activision will gain nothing, and lose 66% of their customers in the process.

 

microsoft can't do shit until they sell more consoles.

 

Neither company has guaranteed sales it's all reset every gen. Consumers can go either way

 

Xbox 360 outsold the PS3 for the whole gen up until like the last few months, and did it without even really breaking into the European and Asian markets. 

 

It's all about the initial excitement from the go and the sustained exclusives later on. 

 

Edited May 30, 2020 by Vini

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Just now, Vini said:

 

Neither company has guaranteed sales it's all reset every gen. Consumers can go either way

 

Xbox 360 outsold the PS3 for the whole gen up until like the last few months, and did it without even really breaking into the European and Asian markets. 

 

It's all about the initial excitement from the go and the sustained exclusives later on. 

 

don't underestimate how disatrous the Xbox One reveal was for the brand as a whole, it's literally carried that stink for almost a decade now and it isn't going anywhere any time soon. There's also a host of other problems that have arisen this gen:

Xbox is known for having a shit 1st party, and no exclusives. the perception of the brand is that it's vastly inferior to playstation on the games front. That's a real thing, not a forum or internet fanboy thing.

 

moreover, the xbox has never, and will never gain a foothold in asian markets and most of europe. it's sold so few systems and is basically an unknown brand in some of these parts. 

 

what you're essentially praying for is a miracle, and since we already see how XSX is fairing against PS5 (not well, the PS5 controller eclipsed the whole XSX reveal) we can make an educated guess that things are going to remain largely the same, Playstation being roughly 3x as popular worldwide, and still getting the majority of the support industry wide. 

 

 

[Vini 430]

10 minutes ago, Bodycount VII said:

don't underestimate how disatrous the Xbox One reveal was for the brand as a whole, it's literally carried that stink for almost a decade now and it isn't going anywhere any time soon. There's also a host of other problems that have arisen this gen:

 Xbox is known for having a shit 1st party, and no exclusives. the perception of the brand is that it's vastly inferior to playstation on the games front. That's a real thing, not a forum or internet fanboy thing.

  

moreover, the xbox has never, and will never gain a foothold in asian markets and most of europe. it's sold so few systems and is basically an unknown brand in some of these parts. 

 

what you're essentially praying for is a miracle, and since we already see how XSX is fairing against PS5 (not well, the PS5 controller eclipsed the whole XSX reveal) we can make an educated guess that things are going to remain largely the same, Playstation being roughly 3x as popular worldwide, and still getting the majority of the support industry wide. 

 

 

Don't need a miracle just need a repeat of last gen and a slightly larger push towards other markets. 

 

Edited May 30, 2020 by Vini

[Twinblade★ 3,986]

They're clearly not using any of that money to invest in good first party games.

[Vini 430]

Just now, Twinblade said:

They're clearly not using any of that money to invest in good first party games.

Not yet

 

But they easily can if they choose to

 

Edited May 30, 2020 by Vini

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why is this a thing, why would microsoft take money from office, microsoft word, etc. and say hey, let's make a new game for the xbox division with this! 

 

It's delusions, nothing more.

[Vini 430]

13 minutes ago, Bodycount VII said:

why is this a thing, why would microsoft take money from office, microsoft word, etc. and say hey, let's make a new game for the xbox division with this! 

 

It's delusions, nothing more.

Microsoft has the ambition to dominate the gaming space next gen and seems to be doing everything to make that a reality. 

 

Because it's immensely profitable to be in that position especially with game pass which has been a cash cow already. 

 

Edited May 30, 2020 by Vini

[lynux3 2,165]

33 minutes ago, Vini said:

Microsoft has the ambition to dominate the gaming space next gen and seems to be doing everything to make that a reality. 

 

Because it's immensely profitable to be in that position especially with game pass which has been a cash cow already. 

 

Pipe Dreams  

[Vini 430]

3 minutes ago, lynux3 said:

Pipe Dreams  

Speaking of pipes you're about to be piped for a whole gen. Lube up

[Voidler 1,675]

Didnt you dopes make the same argument about Xbox One and then is was $499? 

[madmaltese★ 2,617]

Amazon and Apple has more cash on hands than Sony and Nintendo fellas. Which obviously means they have better games too. 

 

[Ike★ 2,922]

9 minutes ago, madmaltese said:

Amazon and Apple has more cash on hands than Sony and Nintendo fellas. Which obviously means they have better games too. 

 

Alphabet has the third most. Stadia should’ve ran away with the industry by this logic.  

[madmaltese★ 2,617]

1 minute ago, Ike said:

Alphabet has the third most. Stadia should’ve ran away with the industry by this logic.  

 

according to vini it’s just a matter of them choosing to. Clearly Google just didn’t want Stadia to succeed and chose not to be successful. 

 

1 hour ago, Vini said:

Not yet

 

But they easily can if they choose to

 

 

[Vini 430]

4 minutes ago, madmaltese said:

 

according to vini it’s just a matter of them choosing to. Clearly Google just didn’t want Stadia to succeed and chose not to be successful. 

 

 

Please..

 

Stadia didn't have a foothold in gaming like Xbox has had

[Ike★ 2,922]

Just now, Vini said:

Please..

 

Stadia didn't have a foothold in gaming like Xbox has had

From a distant third? You also think Xbox has better brand recognition than Google?