Just 10% of Covid deaths were actually from Covid

[Cooke 2,030]

 

[Mr. Impossible 409]

Oh man. 

[Goukosan 2,256]

18 minutes ago, Cooke said:

 

 

Did you actually watch what you posted?

 

They're specifically talking about Australia and a specific part of Australia. 

 

Not only that... Just 10% who died were from the virus alone (that doesn't mean only 10% died from Covid19)  and the rest that died had underlying conditions. 

 

Overall they credited the low death rate over there to a high vaccination rate in Australia. 

 

I'm glad you agree that the vaccination effort worked and Australia was a shining example of this. 

Edited August 10, 2022 by Goukosan

[Cooke 2,030]

16 minutes ago, Goukosan said:

 

Did you actually watch what you posted?

 

They're specifically talking about Australia and a specific part of Australia. 

 

Not only that... Just 10% who died were from the virus alone (that doesn't mean only 10% died from Covid19)  and the rest that died had underlying conditions. 

 

Overall they credited the low death rate over there to a high vaccination rate in Australia. 

 

I'm glad you agree that the vaccination effort worked and Australia was a shining example of this. 

Yes I can see that's is Australia. They handled the pandemic much like Canada did. Overreaction and inflation of numbers 

[jehurey 3,238]

7 minutes ago, Cooke said:

Yes I can see that's is Australia. They handled the pandemic much like Canada did. Overreaction and inflation of numbers 

No, that's not what the report is saying.

 

Can you respond exactly to what gouko said?

 

You posted this...............now you're trying to argue against WHAT YOU POSTED?

[Goukosan 2,256]

21 minutes ago, Cooke said:

Yes I can see that's is Australia. They handled the pandemic much like Canada did. Overreaction and inflation of numbers 

 

That not what the report is saying.

 

So you didn't actually watch the full video and listen to what they're saying.   You only listened to the headline... Lmfao. 

 

They credited the high vaccination rate for their low death rate. 

 

Not only that Australia didn't inflate their hospitalizations and death numbers, they had one of the lowest rates in the world because of how swift they acted with the lockdowns and how quickly they vaccinated thier population once the vaccine was available. 

Edited August 10, 2022 by Goukosan

[Substatic 421]

I knew before clicking the thread there wouldn't be a real source (peer reviewed study) or his source wouldn't say what he's saying.

Edited August 10, 2022 by Substatic

[Cooke 2,030]

2 minutes ago, Goukosan said:

 

That not what the report is saying.

 

So you didn't actually watch the full video and listen to what they're saying.   You only listened to the headline... Lmfao. 

 

They credited the high vaccination rate for their low death rate. 

 

Not only that Australia didn't inflate their hospitalizations and death numbers, they had one of the lowest rates in the world because of how swift they acted with the lockdowns and how quickly they vaccinated thier population once the vaccine was available. 

i watched the video. only 10% of the deaths were actually from covid.   

 

Its shit like this that makes people not trust their government. If you want your populace to trust you then tell the fucking truth. Be as honest as possible. Don't tell "noble lies"  

[Cooke 2,030]

Just now, Substatic said:

I knew before clicking the thread there wouldn't be a real source. 

what is a real source substatic? 

[Cooke 2,030]

Its like you guys are watching a different video or not watching it at all. ONLY 10% OF DEATHS WERE FROM COVID ALONE. IT WASNT AS DEADLY AS THEY SAID. jesus christ. 

[Substatic 421]

15 minutes ago, Cooke said:

what is a real source substatic? 

 

A peer reviewed study, because your claim goes against what experts and science has stated.

 

This SAME semantics mistake was already fact checked when idiots in the US tried to make it using CDC data,

 

CDC statistic on COVID-19 deaths does not mean only 6 percent died of the virus | wbir.com

 

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CDC statistic on COVID-19 deaths does not mean only 6 percent died of the virus

 

The Centers for Disease Control said six percent of COVID-19 deaths were from COVID alone, but the claim that the virus killed only 9,000 Americans is incorrect. Most deaths from the coronavirus had causes in addition to COVID, not instead of it.

Online posts from Tennessee State Representatives Jeremy Faison and Jason Zachary point to incomplete information also amplified in a false claim, reportedly posted by President Donald Trump and removed by Twitter.

The CDC website reads "For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death."

This means 94 percent of people who died of the virus in the US had other conditions, which contributed to their death in addition to COVID-19.

 

This echoes information public health doctors have shared since the pandemic began that people with underlying health conditions are at higher risk of complications and death due to the coronavirus. 

 

 

Debunking the False Claim That COVID Death Counts Are Inflated - Scientific American

 

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A persistent falsehood has been circulating on social media: the number of COVID deaths is much lower than official statistics, and therefore the danger of the disease has been overblown. In August, President Donald Trump retweeted a post claiming that only 6 percent of these reported deaths were actually from COVID-19. (The tweet originated from a follower of the debunked conspiracy fantasy QAnon.) Twitter removed the post for containing false information, but fabrications such as these continue to spread. In September outgoing U.S. Representative Roger Marshall of Kansas—now incoming senator—complained that Facebook had removed a post in which he claimed that 94 percent of COVID-19 deaths reported by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention “were the result of 2-3 additional serious illnesses and were of advanced age.”

Now some facts: Researchers know beyond a doubt that the number of COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. surpassed a quarter of a million people by November 2020. This number is supported by three lines of evidence, including death certificates. The inaccurate idea that only 6 percent of the deaths were really caused by the coronavirus is “a gross misinterpretation” of how death certificates work, says Robert Anderson, chief mortality statistician at the CDC's National Center for Health Statistics.

 

 

Fact check: 94% of individuals with additional causes of death still had COVID-19 | Reuters

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Dr. Larsen said that in both cases, “without those two triggers,” a gunshot wound and COVID-19, “the death would not have occurred. Nothing that appears after those primary diagnoses would have transpired had it not been for the primary event. In these examples, the patients did not die directly from being homeless or being diabetic with hypertension, however, they were contributing factors.”

On Sept. 1, Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), debunked the claim on ABC’s Good Morning America ( here ).  

Asked to explain “why the president would retweet a theory that suggests only 9,000 people have died of COVID-19,” Fauci said, “The point that the CDC was trying to make was that a certain percentage of (Americans who have died of COVID-19) had nothing else but just COVID. That does not mean that someone who has hypertension or diabetes who dies of COVID didn’t die of COVID-19. They did.”

He then confirmed that the recorded 180,000 American deaths “are real deaths from COVID-19.”

 

 

 

It's best if the extreme right conservatives at this section (or really anywhere) stay out of any science discussion.  Stick with memes or whatever.

Edited August 10, 2022 by Substatic

[jehurey 3,238]

45 minutes ago, Cooke said:

Its like you guys are watching a different video or not watching it at all. ONLY 10% OF DEATHS WERE FROM COVID ALONE. IT WASNT AS DEADLY AS THEY SAID. jesus christ. 

you've already attempted this line of argument about a year ago?

 

did you honestly think you could bring this up again, like as if you've discovered a new smoking gun revelation?

[Goukosan 2,256]

7 hours ago, Cooke said:

i watched the video. only 10% of the deaths were actually from covid.   

 

Its shit like this that makes people not trust their government. If you want your populace to trust you then tell the fucking truth. Be as honest as possible. Don't tell "noble lies"  

 

No retard, 10% from Covid ALONE. meaning people without underlying conditions that died from covid was 10% and they attributed that to their high vaccination rate..... That doesn't mean only 10% died from Covid.  How stupid are you really? 

 

Australia did not report high numbers to begin with, so now you're just making stuff up as always. 

[Goukosan 2,256]

7 hours ago, Cooke said:

Its like you guys are watching a different video or not watching it at all. ONLY 10% OF DEATHS WERE FROM COVID ALONE. IT WASNT AS DEADLY AS THEY SAID. jesus christ. 

 

You do realize that this number represents the number AFTER vaccinations were available right?  They weren't talking about for the entire of the pandemic. 

 

And They're talking about how many died from Covid ALONE (again that doesn't mean 10% died from Covid) after the majority of the population was vaccinated and not only that... As they said in the video it's because of those high vaccination rate. 

 

You just posted a video that's touting their covid protocols success and then you're spinning it to mean covid wasn't deadly. 

 

 

"see my seat belt worked I didn't die.. That means car accidents aren't deadly"... Fucking dumbass

[Goukosan 2,256]

7 hours ago, Substatic said:

 

A peer reviewed study, because your claim goes against what experts and science has stated.

 

This SAME semantics mistake was already fact checked when idiots in the US tried to make it using CDC data,

 

CDC statistic on COVID-19 deaths does not mean only 6 percent died of the virus | wbir.com

 

 

Debunking the False Claim That COVID Death Counts Are Inflated - Scientific American

 

 

 

Fact check: 94% of individuals with additional causes of death still had COVID-19 | Reuters

 

 

It's best if the extreme right conservatives at this section (or really anywhere) stay out of any science discussion.  Stick with memes or whatever.

 

Samething we've been telling this retard for 2 years. 

 

He thinks that if you had an underlying condition and then you caught covid and died.. That it shouldn't count as a covid death... Only perfectly healthy people who died from covid should count according to him... Lmfao

[Cooke 2,030]

8 hours ago, Substatic said:

 

A peer reviewed study, because your claim goes against what experts and science has stated.

 

This SAME semantics mistake was already fact checked when idiots in the US tried to make it using CDC data,

 

CDC statistic on COVID-19 deaths does not mean only 6 percent died of the virus | wbir.com

 

 

Debunking the False Claim That COVID Death Counts Are Inflated - Scientific American

 

 

 

Fact check: 94% of individuals with additional causes of death still had COVID-19 | Reuters

 

 

It's best if the extreme right conservatives at this section (or really anywhere) stay out of any science discussion.  Stick with memes or whatever.

It's not a fucking study lol

[Twinblade★ 3,925]

 

12 hours ago, Goukosan said:

 

That not what the report is saying.

 

So you didn't actually watch the full video and listen to what they're saying.   You only listened to the headline... Lmfao. 

 

They credited the high vaccination rate for their low death rate. 

 

Not only that Australia didn't inflate their hospitalizations and death numbers, they had one of the lowest rates in the world because of how swift they acted with the lockdowns and how quickly they vaccinated thier population once the vaccine was available. 

 

So why are they seeing such big spikes in the death rate when most people over there have been vaccinated? Can you explain this?

 

[jehurey 3,238]

32 minutes ago, Twinblade said:

 

 

So why are they seeing such big spikes in the death rate when most people over there have been vaccinated? Can you explain this?

 

Uh yeah.............read what it says in the top left, dumbass.

 

its a CUMULATIVE chart.

 

Did you think that more people were dying on 7/22 than on 4/13? Its a CUMULATIVE count, stupid.

 

Did you expect the line to GO DOWN????????????????????????????????

 

And that chart gives absolutely no indication of what year it is, but by the looks of it, it appears to be 2019 leading into 2020. because the chart would make absolutely no sense being 2020 leading into 2021.

 

2020........when COVID vaccines didn't exist yet.

[Twinblade★ 3,925]

3 minutes ago, jehurey said:

Uh yeah.............read what it says in the top left, dumbass.

 

its a CUMULATIVE chart.

 

Did you think that more people were dying on 7/22 than on 4/13? Its a CUMULATIVE count, stupid.

 

Did you expect the line to GO DOWN????????????????????????????????

 

And that chart gives absolutely no indication of what year it is, but by the looks of it, it appears to be 2019 leading into 2020. because the chart would make absolutely no sense being 2020 leading into 2021.

 

2020........when COVID vaccines didn't exist yet.

 

Do you not know how graphs work?

 

Thats showing data since the beginning of the pandemic, when there were no vaccines.

 

The major surge starts at around January 3rd of THIS YEAR (see the 1/3 marker towards the right side) and then steadily increases until the last marker of 7/22 THIS YEAR.

 

In that period of 7 months alone, there have been TEN THOUSAND total deaths. In a population where 96% of people 16 and older have been fully vaccinated

 

https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccines/numbers-statistics

 

So whats your explanation for this Jerry? 

 

 

 

 

[Mr. Impossible 409]

45 minutes ago, Twinblade said:

 

Do you not know how graphs work?

 

Thats showing data since the beginning of the pandemic, when there were no vaccines.

 

The major surge starts at around January 3rd of THIS YEAR (see the 1/3 marker towards the right side) and then steadily increases until the last marker of 7/22 THIS YEAR.

 

In that period of 7 months alone, there have been TEN THOUSAND total deaths. In a population where 96% of people 16 and older have been fully vaccinated

 

https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccines/numbers-statistics

 

So whats your explanation for this Jerry? 

 

 

 

 

I can explain. Apparently there are things called "variants"? Lol what was even the point of posting this in the first place? 

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/australias-covid-19-cases-surge-hospitalisations-hit-pandemic-high-nsw-2022-01-03/

 

 

In Victoria, the second state, the authorities said one in four people showing up for a swab test was returning a positive result. Almost everyone in that state's intensive care units was unvaccinated, the authorities said. Victoria had 14,020 new cases, nearly double the previous day's count.

 

"The problem at the moment is that the lack of (rapid antigen tests) is completely hampering 'personal responsibility' and it is a frustration that is a glaring hole in the current management of COVID," Chris Moy, vice president of the Australian Medical Association, told ABC Radio on Tuesday, using Morrison's phrase.

Edited August 10, 2022 by Mr. Impossible