DynamiteCop 2,101 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) Phil Spencer just posted Richard Leadbetter's article on the system which makes note of 12 Teraflops four different times. I mean Phil read this and took the time to post it, not saying he would correct them and be like "Well no it's actually X Teraflops" but I can't see him knowingly reading this and then posting it if that wasn't an accurate figure. So there it is I guess, we're looking at a 12 Teraflop Navi GPU which would equate to a 15 Teraflop GCN GPU. @Carlos Vela Edited December 19, 2019 by DynamiteCop! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,326 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 You flip flop about DF so much it's hilarious. So I guess they're credible again? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,101 Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Goukosan said: You flip flop about DF so much it's hilarious. So I guess they're credible again? You're extremely dumb. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,326 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Just now, DynamiteCop! said: You're extremely dumb. So are they credible today or not? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,785 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 More than 500 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kaz 2,445 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 only 12 flops? xbox flopped harder than that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,792 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 It's gonna sit between a RTX 2080 and 2080 Super, like we said. Good fucking baseline for next gen @DynamiteCop! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,700 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 $499 would be incredible Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,101 Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, madmaltese said: $499 would be incredible It's what they have to do, I think it's pretty clear they're targeting losses here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,785 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Remij_ said: It's gonna sit between a RTX 2080 and 2080 Super, like we said. Good fucking baseline for next gen @DynamiteCop! I dont think many people were expecting a 2080 super console . That's a monster Edited December 19, 2019 by JONBpc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,700 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 18 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: It's what they have to do, I think it's pretty clear they're targeting losses here. They're big enough to take it but still not sure it's the best business strategy. Even with best case cost pricing, say they lose $100 (would realistically be more at $499) on each system, that would mean: Sell 10m systems at that price, say within the first 6-12 months and that's a billion dollar loss. That's a lot to make up with subs. Would be years before it can hope to be profitable Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,101 Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 minute ago, madmaltese said: They're big enough to take it but still not sure it's the best business strategy. Even with best case cost pricing, say they lose $100 (would realistically be more at $499) on each system, that would mean: Sell 10m systems at that price, say within the first 6-12 months and that's a billion dollar loss. That's a lot to make up with subs. Would be years before it can hope to be profitable They make several billion just in Live subs, then you calculate in platform fees, game cuts, GamePass, all the other shit. They make up for it in spades. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,792 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 minute ago, madmaltese said: They're big enough to take it but still not sure it's the best business strategy. Even with best case cost pricing, say they lose $100 (would realistically be more at $499) on each system, that would mean: Sell 10m systems at that price, say within the first 6-12 months and that's a billion dollar loss. That's a lot to make up with subs. Would be years before it can hope to be profitable Offer new features on PSN and bump the price a bit. They're laughing to the bank. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,792 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 14 minutes ago, JONBpc said: I dont think many people were expecting a 2080 super console . That's a monster Yea it's pretty good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-GD-X★ 7,920 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 i must say...the specs are getting me hyped. here's to hoping ms takes a hit and gets this beast out at $499. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,700 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: They make several billion just in Live subs, then you calculate in platform fees, game cuts, GamePass, all the other shit. They make up for it in spades. Not necessarily man, Sony did those loses with PS3 and they just survived the gen, and the PS3 sold as well as the highest selling xbox ever. Reaping the benefits now but it didn't look likely back then. 4 minutes ago, Remij_ said: Offer new features on PSN and bump the price a bit. They're laughing to the bank. Not so sure Sony will do that moving forward unless really forced to by MS really undercutting their console in price. They have been so resistant to price drops this entire gen, the least and slowest price cuts in their history. They haven't even done it this year with PS4 sales now considerably slowing down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,792 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, madmaltese said: Not necessarily man, Sony did those loses with PS3 and they just survived the gen, and the PS3 sold as well as the highest selling xbox ever. Reaping the benefits now but it didn't look likely back then. Not so sure Sony will do that moving forward unless really forced to by MS really undercutting their console in price. They have been so resistant to price drops this entire gen, the least and slowest price cuts in their history. They haven't even done it this year with PS4 sales now considerably slowing down. Yea I'm just spitting shit out there.. but they will mitigate these costs.. for sure. Maybe PSNow and PC versions of some games play a part it easing the transition? Who knows? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,700 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Just now, Remij_ said: Yea I'm just spitting shit out there.. but they will mitigate these costs.. for sure. Maybe PSNow and PC versions of some games play a part it easing the transition? Who knows? Yeah selling some games on a new platform (PC) could defs help offset the losses somewhat. Such a crazy balancing act though. Them deciding the benefits and strengths of exclusives to push a system over the software sales. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,792 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Just now, madmaltese said: Yeah selling some games on a new platform (PC) could defs help offset the losses somewhat. Such a crazy balancing act though. Them deciding the benefits and strengths of exclusives to push a system over the software sales. Yea. I think they're undergoing big time restructuring of their services and broadening their horizons a bit. Not to mention, Cerny is a crafty motherfucker. I'm sure with how well they did with the PS4, they're willing to do what it takes to keep their marketshare and release something close to what MS has. I just can't believe how much money PSN makes them. They make more money off PSN alone than Nintendo does in its entirety.. lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,700 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Just now, Remij_ said: Yea. I think they're undergoing big time restructuring of their services and broadening their horizons a bit. Not to mention, Cerny is a crafty motherfucker. I'm sure with how well they did with the PS4, they're willing to do what it takes to keep their marketshare and release something close to what MS has. I just can't believe how much money PSN makes them. They make more money off PSN alone than Nintendo does in its entirety.. lol Yeah it's fucking insane numbers and the speed of it's growth has been unreal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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