lynux3 2,450 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 1 minute ago, lostfool said: That's not an example of consumer exploitation. Consumer exploitation would be like what EA does Selling the same games for a premium is not consumer exploitation? Link to post Share on other sites
TLHBO 2,297 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 1 minute ago, lostfool said: That's not an example of consumer exploitation. Consumer exploitation would be like what EA does Why do sheep see it in every other company but not Nintendo? EA at least implemented refunds. Nintendo was caught in a huge fucking price fixing scandal ffs. You have Stockholm syndrome. Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,149 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 1 hour ago, TLHBO said: Why do sheep see it in every other company but not Nintendo? EA at least implemented refunds. Nintendo was caught in a huge fucking price fixing scandal ffs. You have Stockholm syndrome. Let's not forget that these faggots also never reduce the price of their games. Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,318 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 1 hour ago, lynux3 said: Selling the same games for a premium is not consumer exploitation? No. Did Nintendo somehow magically steal your previous copy of the game? 16 minutes ago, DynamiteCop said: Let's not forget that these faggots also never reduce the price of their games. .....because they're good. I mean, by that logic.........its unfair that Francis Ford Coppolla re-releases new versions of The Godfather and Apocalypse Now to movie theaters and they charge you the price of any regular movie ticket. People will pay that because.......its the Godfather and Apocalypse Now. No one is going to give a shit about a remaster of Forza Horizon 2. Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,450 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Just now, jehurey said: No. Did Nintendo somehow magically steal your previous copy of the game? What does that have to do with selling the same games at a premium? Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,451 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, lynux3 said: What does that have to do with selling the same games at a premium? $2.50 or $3.99 a month is a premium? Edited October 27, 2021 by Goukosan Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,318 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 1 minute ago, lynux3 said: What does that have to do with selling the same games at a premium? I'm pretty sure that Ocarina of Time sold at $60-$80 originally. So did other N64 games. And $30 for a year for all of those games...........if my math checks correctly...........is less than $60 for just one of those games. Its less than the Wii Virtual Console prices of $10 per each N64 game. So......its less than the prices from 20 years ago. And its less than the prices from 10 years ago. Correct? Link to post Share on other sites
MalaXmaS 705 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, jehurey said: I'm pretty sure that Ocarina of Time sold at $60-$80 originally. So did other N64 games. And $30 for a year for all of those games...........if my math checks correctly...........is less than $60 for just one of those games. Its less than the Wii Virtual Console prices of $10 per each N64 game. So......its less than the prices from 20 years ago. And its less than the prices from 10 years ago. Correct? Yeah but that was over 20 years ago. Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,318 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 1 minute ago, MalaXmaS said: Yeah but that was over 20 years ago. ...and? I don't understand what you are trying to say. If I want to read a classic American novel that is highly recommended by everyone.....should I walk into a book store and say "well.........its an old book, so.uh.........just GIVE it to me?" Link to post Share on other sites
MalaXmaS 705 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, jehurey said: ...and? I don't understand what you are trying to say. If I want to read a classic American novel that is highly recommended by everyone.....should I walk into a book store and say "well.........its an old book, so.uh.........just GIVE it to me?" A book that was $25 about 20 years ago you can find for less than $10. Nintendo needs to get over themselves and realize their games are not works of art or literature. And the ones to blame are their fanbase who started to create a market with bloated prices for old games. The videogame market is not like the art world. They are media that its only true purpose is to be consumed not gawked at. Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,450 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 16 minutes ago, Goukosan said: $2.50 or $3.99 a month is a premium? Yes. Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,318 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Just now, MalaXmaS said: A book that was $25 about 20 years ago you can find for less than $10. Nintendo needs to get over themselves and realize their games are not works of art or literature. And the ones to blame are their fanbase who started to create a market with bloated prices for old games. The videogame market is not like the art world. They are media that its only true purpose is to be consumed not gawked at. Sure, if its used. not if its being sold as a new product. And guess what...........Ocarina of Time cost $80 20 years ago. Now it cost you $3.99 to play it for a month. They did get over themselves......and are selling you the right to play the game at a fair price. If you want, you can buy a NEW COPY of Ocarina of Time with IMPROVEMENTS AND UPGRADES, for about $15 on the 3DS. Video games are worth money. They don't suddenly become de-valued after X amount of years. it still operates on free market principles. If its good, people will want it, and it therefore carries value. Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,318 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, lynux3 said: Yes. Then you shouldn't wasting what little money you have on video games, and focus on more important things in life, if you can't handle those prices. Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,450 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 1 minute ago, jehurey said: Then you shouldn't wasting what little money you have on video games, and focus on more important things in life, if you can't handle those prices. I can't handle poor quality services bundled with poor quality emulation. Link to post Share on other sites
MalaXmaS 705 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, jehurey said: Sure, if its used. not if its being sold as a new product. And guess what...........Ocarina of Time cost $80 20 years ago. Now it cost you $3.99 to play it for a month. They did get over themselves......and are selling you the right to play the game at a fair price. If you want, you can buy a NEW COPY of Ocarina of Time with IMPROVEMENTS AND UPGRADES, for about $15 on the 3DS. Video games are worth money. They don't suddenly become de-valued after X amount of years. it still operates on free market principles. If its good, people will want it, and it therefore carries value. Yeah but Nintendo is not selling you the original package complete with the box and cart for $3.99 They are selling you the license to play the digital version which runs worse than the original and in an era which there are far better looking and playable games. Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,451 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, lynux3 said: Yes. That's less than 3 cents per game.... Dat premium price indeed Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,318 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, MalaXmaS said: Yeah but Nintendo is not selling you the original package complete with the box and cart for $3.99 They are selling you the license to play the digital version which runs worse than the original and in an era which there are far better looking and playable games. Well, they should run as intended. So, if the games continue to not play well, people should get refunds. But........you're pretty much proving my point with the pricing. $80 for the cartridge, with the box and packaging. $3.99 for a full month digital rental of MULTIPLE N64 games. So, in reality each game is less than a buck a month. There's 9 games immediately available for $3.99, so thats 44 cents a month? There's 7 more games coming, so 16 games for $3.99, so thats 25 cents per each game, per month. And that's not counting the SEGA Genesis games, and the NES and SNES games. That's if the entire $50/year subscription were for just 16 Nintendo64 games. Explain to me how this is wildly unfair, economically? Edited October 27, 2021 by jehurey Link to post Share on other sites
TLHBO 2,297 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Sheep are actually defending this The analogy to movies like The Godfather is a good onebecuse that’s exactly how Nintendo sees their games, as classics they can re-release for a premium like The Godfather or Disney’s various re-releases. Except those movies have fared much better than dated pieces of shit like Urban Champ, Nintendo Hockey, or even Metroid and the NES Zelda games. Their SNES games fare much better but Nintendo massively overestimates the value of their ancient games. Imagine if Atari tried charging Nintendo’s bullshit prices for Pong or Pitfall. Sega handles it better too, their old games are good but they aren’t system sellers anymore. Videogames and movies don’t age the same way. The worst part is how they want you to buy them every gen. If you bought a DVD movie you could still watch it on Blu-ray. Microsoft has games tied to accounts across generations providing the games are backwards comptible. Nintendo had people buy in with wii, pay for an upgrade with wii u, and now its a rental service. Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,318 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, TLHBO said: Sheep are actually defending this The analogy to movies like The Godfather is a good onebecuse that’s exactly how Nintendo sees their games, as classics they can re-release for a premium like The Godfather or Disney’s various re-releases. Except those movies have fared much better than dated pieces of shit like Urban Champ, Nintendo Hockey Urban Champ or Nintendo Hockey aren't these N64 games. Those games are on an even cheaper tier. And they are part of much larger libraries in which they charge less money. Link to post Share on other sites
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