VGC: Microsoft has accused Sony of paying developers for "blocking rights" to stop their content appearing on Xbox Game Pass.

[jehurey 3,273]

3 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

I was responding to your post

Nope, you've lost

 

And I am going to post this amazing lie that you got busted on:

 

You literally said that PC was the same size as 10 entire console platforms, and you got caught lying.

 

29 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

PC literally has almost as much as 10 platforms (The Console pie includes last gen and handheld) combined.

 

Holy shit, you have no credibility whatsoever after making a lie that egregious.

[Substatic 421]

1 minute ago, jehurey said:

 

  because you know you're losing the argument.

 

My argument is PC is the biggest single gaming platform outside of Mobile. Not PS4 or PS5.  You lied.

 

[Substatic 421]

On 2022-08-10 at 7:43 PM, jehurey said:

 

 

oh that's right, the playstation is far and away the biggest platform..........i guess they have leverage.

 

 

JERRY CAUGHT LYING!

 

• Steam has more monthly active users than both Xbox and PlayStation | VG247
• The PC is the favored platform among game devs in the US and Europe | PC Gamer
• Global Game Revenues Up an Extra $15 Billion This Year as Engagement Skyrockets | Newzoo
• PC is the most played gaming platform this year - - Gamereactor

Turns out PC is far and away the biggest platform other than mobile! Why would he say Playstation when PC has more gamers, games, devs, and revenue!?

Edited August 15, 2022 by Substatic

[jehurey 3,273]

1 minute ago, Substatic said:

 

Do you have citation for these claims?

 

Yeah, us making fun of Xbox sales tanking to BELOW Gamecube monthly sales levels during the years 2019 and 2020.

 

Sorry, we're not going to off on another one of your tangents, because you've lost the main argument.

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1 minute ago, jehurey said:

Yeah,  

 

I asked for citation. A link will do. Thanks.

[jehurey 3,273]

1 minute ago, Substatic said:

 

My argument is PC is the biggest single gaming platform

 

Nope, it clearly isn't, juding from your own link you posted.

 

maybe try reading them next time.

 

 

Just now, Substatic said:

 

JERRY CAUGHT LYING!

 

 

Sorry, projection isn't going to help you at this point.

 

You're not going to make me forget that you typed the biggest lie............and I busted you on it, right?

 

You're credibility is completely shot.

 

And you can't escape it until you man-up enough to admit your egregious lie.

[Substatic 421]

2 minutes ago, jehurey said:

  because you've lost the main argument.

 

The literal first post of the quote chain was proving your PlayStation argument wrong. 

[jehurey 3,273]

Just now, Substatic said:

 

I asked for citation. A link will do. Thanks.

Nope, you're tangent isn't going to be allowed here.

 

Especially after you've lost the main argument.

[Substatic 421]

Just now, jehurey said:

 

 

You're credibility is completely shot.

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

JERRY CAUGHT LYING!

 

• Steam has more monthly active users than both Xbox and PlayStation | VG247
• The PC is the favored platform among game devs in the US and Europe | PC Gamer
• Global Game Revenues Up an Extra $15 Billion This Year as Engagement Skyrockets | Newzoo
• PC is the most played gaming platform this year - - Gamereactor

Turns out PC is far and away the biggest platform other than mobile! Why would he say Playstation when PC has more gamers, games, devs, and revenue!?

 

[jehurey 3,273]

Just now, Substatic said:

 

The literal first post of the quote chain

No, your own links essentially prove you wrong.

 

This was already demonstrated.

 

LOL idiot tried to use HLTB as a source

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1 minute ago, jehurey said:

Nope, you're tangent isn't going to be allowed here.

 

 

 

You said Playstation was the by far the biggest gaming platform. I debunked this claim in the very first post of this 2 page long quote chain.

 

Edited August 15, 2022 by Substatic

[Substatic 421]

Just now, jehurey said:

No, your own links essentially prove you wrong.

 

 

My links proves PC is the biggest single platform outside of Mobile....

Edited August 15, 2022 by Substatic

[jehurey 3,273]

Just now, Substatic said:

 

 

You're done.

 

You clearly have nothing left, after I've completely dismantled your poor-constructed arguments.

 

That's Checkmate.

[Mr. House 3,371]

4 minutes ago, jehurey said:

The Xbox marketplace is non-existant during the year 2020. Its only really talking about Playstation and Switch.

 

And between that, I'd say at 2020, the split was probably 60% Playstation 4, 40% Switch in terms of sales.

 

Playstation 4 had already reached 100 million in userbase.

 

So that already puts it comparatively to that PC userbase figure, which isn't breaking it down between Windows and Mac gaming, and Linux gaming.

Your point? PC still has a bigger userbase or overall revenue generated, even if Xbox was a flop.

 

And I see no reason to separate the PC market with windows, mac and linux. Even if we did, windows probably represents 95% of the market.

[jehurey 3,273]

Holy shit is he pissed

 

Just now, Substatic said:

 

You sand Playstation was the by far the biggest gaming platform

 

And it is.

 

And you got caught egregiously lying in the process.

Just now, Substatic said:

 

My links proves PC is the biggest single platform outside of Mobile....

No it isn't

 

Your links proved its in last place

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Just now, jehurey said:

You're done.

 

 

The moment you said PS4 (or PS5) was the biggest gaming platform when PC had higher software revenue, gamers, games, and developers ......you had fucked up.

 

 

 

[jehurey 3,273]

Just now, Ramza said:

Your point? PC still has a bigger userbase or overall revenue generated, even if Xbox was a flop.

 

And I see no reason to separate the PC market with windows, mac and linux. Even if we did, windows probably represents 95% of the market.

Its probably much lower than 95%. Mac gaming is sizable enough. And those hardcore nerds would be gaming on their SteamOS builds, they would be heavy game purchasers.

 

The point is that the Playstation 4 userbase, on its own..........would have absolutely reached the entire PC userbase level.

 

And, like I asked him.

 

"If Playstation is forcing devs that they can't do GamePass............why didn't the developers simply come to the conclusion 'Well, the PC userbase is so huge, that we don't need Playstation and just go with Xbox + PC'"????????

 

Why aren't there Xbox+PC games that have omitted Playstation?

 

He couldn't answer that question.

 

And that's because indie developers (who aren't selling shitty beta games on Steam) know that Playstation's userbase is that important.

[jehurey 3,273]

3 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

The moment you said PS4 (or PS5) was the biggest gaming platform when PC had higher software revenue

 

Which you then posted an article that proved the opposite

 

Yup............you ARE done.

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4 minutes ago, jehurey said:

 

The point is that the Playstation 4 userbase, on its own..........would have absolutely reached the entire PC userbase level.

 

And that's because indie developers (who aren't selling shitty beta games on Steam) know that Playstation's userbase is that important.

 

That has nothing to do with PS4 being the largest gaming platform, by far, as you claimed.  PC is.

 

Edited August 15, 2022 by Substatic

[Substatic 421]

Just now, jehurey said:

Which you then posted an article that proved the opposite

 

 

 

What....there is no way PS4 or 5 makes up 80% of the pie of several platforms. Which is the only way that would be possible.