FIREPOWER 721 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Fucking LOL! the trillion dollar corporation buying out every major 3rd party publisher is crying that Sony is paying devs money to keep games off LamePass, the irony 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,676 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Pretty sure we knew this from the EPIC vs Apple thing. Sony undoubtedly sees GamePass as a threat to their business. They even mentioned as much in their response to the MS/Actiblizz merger. They're undoubtedly incentivizing publishers/developers to not adopt it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,230 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 wait a minute, didn't Microsoft do this very thing for the first few years of Xbox Live Arcade's existence? And also, the accusation basically means that Sony would want the game developer to keep the game on Xbox as a regular retail game, the same as it is on Sony's Playstation. So, Xbox is complaining that Sony is forcing a developer to have its games on both console platforms in an equal retail capacity? 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,676 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, jehurey said: wait a minute, didn't Microsoft do this very thing for the first few years of Xbox Live Arcade's existence? And also, the accusation basically means that Sony would want the game developer to keep the game on Xbox as a regular retail game, the same as it is on Sony's Playstation. So, Xbox is complaining that Sony is forcing a developer to have its games on both console platforms in an equal retail capacity? Yes, Sony only wants to compete in the same way they always have.. and stifle new methods of competition in the gaming market. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FIREPOWER 721 Posted August 10, 2022 Author Share Posted August 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Remij said: Yes, Sony only wants to compete in the same way they always have.. and stifle new methods of competition in the gaming market. Sounds like good business to me. If MS was in the same position they would do the same just like they did during the 360 gen where they were paying publishers money left and right for deals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,676 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, FIREPOWER said: Sounds like good business to me. If MS was in the same position they would do the same just like they did during the 360 gen where they were paying publishers money left and right for deals. Absolutely. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. MS is pulling a lot of shit to get devs onboard with Gamepass, and that's on them to convince developers it's good business... works both ways for Sony to convince them to stay the traditional way. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,230 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Remij said: Yes, Sony only wants to compete in the same way they always have.. and stifle new methods of competition in the gaming market. the developer doesn't have to put their game on playstation. oh that's right, the playstation is far and away the biggest platform..........i guess they have leverage. well then, Microsoft can still convince the small developer to not put their game on the playstation platform and convince them to be on GamePass. All they have to do is offer higher GamePass payouts. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,676 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Just now, jehurey said: the developer doesn't have to put their game on playstation. oh that's right, the playstation is far and away the biggest platform..........i guess they have leverage. well then, Microsoft can still convince the small developer to not put their game on the playstation platform and convince them to be on GamePass. All they have to do is offer higher GamePass payouts. Well, yea.. of course. Sony's going to use their leverage if not to stop them, to at least raise the amount MS will have to pay to convince developers to join. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TLHBO 2,162 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Microsoft cries out in pain as it strikes you. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tears of the Cows 1,208 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 The real headline is Sony doesn’t think they can compete without COD. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Substatic 421 Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 (edited) Sony is straight up SHOOK from Games Pass. They need to do underhanded slimy anti-gamer tactics like this. Edited August 12, 2022 by Substatic 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Substatic 421 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 On 2022-08-10 at 7:43 PM, jehurey said: the developer doesn't have to put their game on playstation. oh that's right, the playstation is far and away the biggest platform..........i guess they have leverage. well then, Microsoft can still convince the small developer to not put their game on the playstation platform and convince them to be on GamePass. All they have to do is offer higher GamePass payouts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,230 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 30 minutes ago, Substatic said: I'm sorry, lemmings aren't making posts about their games on gamepass. They're talking about Sony games. You didn't think that far ahead, did you? 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Substatic 421 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 On 2022-08-10 at 7:43 PM, jehurey said: oh that's right, the playstation is far and away the biggest platform......... PC is the biggest platform.....why lie? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,230 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Substatic said: PC is the biggest platform.....why lie? no, it clearly isn't, or else these indie devs would choose Xbox and PC and simply not put their games on Playstation. Them specifically following Playstation's requirement of not having the game on GamePass, means Playstation's leverage is real, because the developer knows the Playstation userbase advantage is real. Let me know the number of games that are Xbox/PC and omit Playstation. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Substatic 421 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, jehurey said: no, it clearly isn't, PC literally is the biggest platform other than Mobile. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,230 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Just now, Substatic said: PC literally is the biggest platform other than Mobile. I love how he tries to pretend he didn't see where he lost the argument I'll re-type it again: Quote Let me know the number of games that are Xbox/PC and omit Playstation. That's checkmate. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Substatic 421 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Just now, jehurey said: I love how he tries to pretend he didn't see where he lost the argument I didn't lose the argument. PC is the currently the largest platform outside of Mobile. I'm stating a fact. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,230 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Just now, Substatic said: I didn't lose the argument. Yes you did. If you can't answer this: Quote Let me know the number of games that are Xbox/PC and omit Playstation. ...then you did lose the argument. He's still avoiding............he's making me look like the winner, so very easily. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Substatic 421 Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, jehurey said: Yes you did. If you can't answer this: ...then you did lose the argument. He's still avoiding............he's making me look like the winner, so very easily. Shut, Steam has more monthly active users than both Xbox and PlayStation | VG247 The, The PC is the favored platform among game devs in the US and Europe | PC Gamer Fuck, Global Game Revenues Up an Extra $15 Billion This Year as Engagement Skyrockets | Newzoo Up, PC is the most played gaming platform this year - - Gamereactor Edited August 15, 2022 by Substatic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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