AMD Premiere: Together we advance PCs - Ryzen 7000 release date September 27th

[Remij 4,690]

Starts in 30min.

 

 

Slides already leaked.  Available Sept 27th.

 

 

 

 

Up to 30% single thread performance compared to Ryzen 5000 series. 

 

Intel's coming with Raptor Lake very soon too so it's going to be a battle for both sides  

Edited August 29, 2022 by Remij

[-GD-X★ 7,761]

it's wild how shadow of the tomb raider is still used for these comparisons. though, it was a visually stunning game (in some ways, i preferred its slower pace to rotr),

[Remij 4,690]

Just now, -GD-X said:

it's wild how shadow of the tomb raider is still used for these comparisons. though, it was a visually stunning game (in some ways, i preferred its slower pace to rotr),

That game holds up extremely well even today.  But yea for sure.

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Just now, Remij said:

That game holds up extremely well even today.  But yea for sure.

big time! i'd say that game, gow, tlou 2, gears 5, rdr2 and a few others still look amazing!

[Substatic 421]

HYPE

 

AMD shows off Radeon RX 7000 graphics card with RDNA3 architecture - VideoCardz.com

 

 

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17 minutes ago, Remij said:

 

 

Up to 30% single thread performance compared to Ryzen 5000 series. 

 

 

 

That's probably 1080p though right?  

[Remij 4,690]

5 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

That's probably 1080p though right?  

That's for anything.

 

Single thread performance improvment comes from IPC + Frequency gains.  It's not going to be 30% for everything.  Depends on the workload... In higher resolutions you might be GPU bottlenecked... but that single thread perf is still there.

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Game development (especially PC) is so far behind existing hardware potential it's fucking sad.  I don't think my old Vega56 ever got to sing with a properly optimized game.  So far it's the same experience with the 6700XT

Edited August 30, 2022 by sugarhigh

[Twinblade★ 3,937]

together we advance PCs - so pc gamers can continue to play console ports 

[Goukosan 2,258]

38 minutes ago, sugarhigh said:

Game development (especially PC) is so far behind existing hardware potential it's fucking sad.  I don't think my old Vega56 ever got to sing with a properly optimized game.  So far it's the same experience with the 6700XT

 

Zero PC exclusive AAA games will do that you. 

 

No big budget AAA  exclusive games built from the ground up for PC like how it used to be back in the day. 

 

The majority of game development target consoles even the multiplat games. 

 

Optimized for consoles then up ported to PC. 

Edited August 30, 2022 by Goukosan

[Remij 4,690]

9 minutes ago, Twinblade said:

together we advance PCs - so pc gamers can continue to play console ports 

TCHBFR TLHBFR TSHBFR   

[Remij 4,690]

2 minutes ago, Goukosan said:

 

Zero PC exclusive AAA games will do that you. 

 

No big budget AAA  exclusive games built from the ground up for PC like how it used to be back in the day. 

 

The majority of game development target consoles even the multiplat games. 

There's a $500M AAA built from the ground up for PC game in development  

 

 

 

 

It's actually been in development SINCE back in the day   

Edited August 30, 2022 by Remij

[Goukosan 2,258]

Just now, Remij said:

There's a $500M AAA built from the ground up for PC game in development  

 

 

 

 

 

 

Damn, games targeting PC development first are making a comeback... Game development is moving away from making games from the ground up for console first.

 

[Remij 4,690]

Just now, Goukosan said:

 

Damn, games targeting PC development first are making a comeback... Game development is moving away from making games from the ground up for console first.

 

lmfao you missed my edit..

 

 

anyway...  Exclusive AAA console development is becoming a thing of the past too  

[Goukosan 2,258]

3 minutes ago, Remij said:

lmfao you missed my edit..

 

 

anyway...  Exclusive AAA console development is becoming a thing of the past too  

 

You missed my edit too. 

 

Multi plats are developed for consoles in mind first as well... 

 

AAA exclusive console development isn't becoming a thing of the past.  Even when those games come to PC it wasn't developed from the ground up for the PC... 

 

[Remij 4,690]

1 minute ago, Goukosan said:

 

You missed my edit too. 

 

Multi plats are developed for consoles in mind first as well... 

 

AAA exclusive console development isn't becoming a thing of the past.  Even when those games come to PC it wasn't developed from the ground up for the PC... 

 

Well... you do tend to develop for the lowest common denominator..

 

Even "back in the day" PC games weren't developed specifically for the most powerful hardware out there....

 

What happened was that console and PC technology converged... so there's no reason to design games solely for PC..... any game that could be developed for PC.. targeting a decent range of PC hardware.. would also work on consoles.. so there's no longer any reason not to.

 

 

And yes, AAA exclusive console development is 100% becoming a thing of the past.  Exclusive development in general.  Even now... PS5 and Series X developers are considering low end PCs when they build their games, same with 3rd parties.

 

 

 

[Goukosan 2,258]

Just now, Remij said:

Well... you do tend to develop for the lowest common denominator..

 

Even "back in the day" PC games weren't developed specifically for the most powerful hardware out there....

 

What happened was that console and PC technology converged... so there's no reason to design games solely for PC..... any game that could be developed for PC.. targeting a decent range of PC hardware.. would also work on consoles.. so there's no longer any reason not to.

 

 

And yes, AAA exclusive console development is 100% becoming a thing of the past.  Exclusive development in general.  Even now... PS5 and Series X developers are considering low end PCs when they build their games, same with 3rd parties.

 

 

 

 

The games are built around the strength of the console not the PC.  

 

They're considering how to better port said games to the PC, is different from the games being made from the ground up for PCs. 

 

When PC gets those PS5 ports 3 years from now... That game when it was originally being developed was developed exclusively for PS5 around the strengths of the PS5 Soc. 

[sugarhigh 519]

42 minutes ago, Twinblade said:

together we advance PCs - so pc gamers can continue to play console ports 

That's still plenty reason to own a PC, even if performance was worse. Having one library of games for decades, access to a lot of different form factors, controller options, generally cheaper games, etc.

[sugarhigh 519]

8 minutes ago, Goukosan said:

 

The games are built around the strength of the console not the PC.  

 

They're considering how to better port said games to the PC, is different from the games being made from the ground up for PCs. 

 

When PC gets those PS5 ports 3 years from now... That game when it was originally being developed was developed exclusively for PS5 around the strengths of the PS5 Soc. 

The difference between that and a PC is smaller than ever tho. It seems like the era of very custom console hardware is dead.

[Remij 4,690]

1 minute ago, Goukosan said:

 

The games are built around the strength of the console not the PC.  

 

They're considering how to better port said games to the PC, is different from the games being made from the ground up for PCs. 

 

When PC gets those PS5 ports 3 years from now... That game when it was originally being developed was developed exclusively for PS5 around the strengths of the PS5 Soc. 

What strengths?  Console architecture IS PC architecture.  Consoles have had unified memory for generations now.  The new thing they have is SSDs.... which PC's have had for ages.

 

Every other strength of the console has nothing to do with the actual technologies within... but the simplicity of development.

 

Developers are making their games.... and they are making decisions early on in development which considers the fact that these games will not be exclusive to that console.  That's simply the reality now. 

 

PC games have never ever in history been designed from the ground up for only the top end PC hardware out there.  Now that PC and console technology has converged... you have consoles which equate to mid-range PCs... which is typically what everything is now designed around regardless of whether it's console or PC.

 

Essentially the base spec for games right now is a mid range PC.... consoles are keeping it at that level.  That's where everything converged.