Remij 4,794 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, JONBpc said: Then 2 years after launch the refresh will drop and own PC again And the refresh console prices creep up to $600 dollars and are again dusted before they even come out so even less people care about them than they did the PRO/X. Games again require patches to take advantage of the new ray-tracing hardware and only 20% receive patches at best. Look guys NOW we have hardware accelerated ray-tracing!! 5 years too late. Meanwhile, in 2023 Nvidia just released the RTX² 4080TI Ultra GPU with 64GB HBM4 and 4TB onboard SSD.. combined with AMD's recently released Ryzen 6000 64core 128thread Consoleripper CPU with 128GB of DDR5 RAM on a MOBO that supports PCIe6.0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,791 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 The price to power compared to PC next gen will be a clear winner for consoles . Even if they were 600 it would cost double that to beat them with PC , if not more Thhbk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,791 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 And lmao about the ray tracing comment . As I always said , ray tracing will be supported when consoles support it . How many games have it now ?? 4 ?? Lmfao Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,794 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 minute ago, JONBpc said: And lmao about the ray tracing comment . As I always said , ray tracing will be supported when consoles support it . How many games have it now ?? 4 ?? Lmfao Nah.. it's literally now a part of the 2 biggest engines which account for most of all game development. It's literally as easy as checking a box... and you have basic RT shadows, reflections, lighting, and ambient occlusion. The fact that UE4 and Unity have it means adoption is happening regardless. Of course devs still have to be mindful of what they are developing.. but devs are anxious to support it. Nvidia released the DXR drivers to GTX users which is also going to help with adoption. You'll have your RT... but a limited basic form of it... while PC gets better support and hardware specific acceleration. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,791 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Guess most devs are forgetting to check that box LOL 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Mother Fucker 26 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 This analysis makes no sense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Teh_Diplomat 2,054 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 9 hours ago, Handsome Horse said: C'mon man, I thought we was boys and all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,794 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 7 hours ago, JONBpc said: Guess most devs are forgetting to check that box LOL How would you know? You're too stupid to notice the difference between on and off anyway Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,101 Posted April 27, 2019 Author Share Posted April 27, 2019 15 minutes ago, Remij_ said: How would you know? You're too stupid to notice the difference between on and off anyway Kind of like you're too stupid to not notice the difference between DLSS on and off? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,794 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 18 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: Kind of like you're too stupid to not notice the difference between DLSS on and off? Me downplaying your over-exaggerations is not "not noticing the difference". I could explain to you all the technical details of DLSS and what it does and doesn't do.. and you know that. But hey, it took Crytek releasing a very limited mediocre ray tracing demo and you were quick to think it was actually viable in any real capacity on traditional shader cores .. you're as dumb as Jon is The mere fact that both PS5 and X2 rumors point to and highlight ray tracing support, means that they both know it's important to future game development and true next generation graphics. Nvidia ALWAYS beats AMD to the punch.. every time. Literally TWO YEARS AHEAD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 5 hours ago, Teh_Diplomat said: C'mon man, I thought we was boys and all. you accused me of being that weird german kid. we enemies for life now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roflpwnedz 289 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 I don't doubt it. Consoles are just more fun. I just have pc cause of piracy lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,326 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 On 2019-04-26 at 6:07 PM, Handsome Horse said: ps2 killed pc with AOL Yea...I remember that shit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spicalicious 129 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) On 2019-04-26 at 6:03 PM, Handsome Horse said: the only way we will abonden pc is if they offer something with 60fps, upgradeable hardware, free online. till then Hermits can never be owned Yes they can be owned. The existing hermits are simply that - the existing hermits. Although they may stick with PC any new potential PC gamers will simply choose a console going forward since they don't need to purchase additional hardware such as mouse, keyboard, monitor, gaming video card etc.. and pay additional fees for OS licensing etc.. Buy an Xbox, bring it home and play. See how easy that was? No building pc's or walking into a computer store to buy a pre built at minumum $1000 plus monitor. None of that. Walk in to Best Buy, hook it up to your existing 4k tv and be done with it. Edited April 28, 2019 by Spicalicious Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, Spicalicious said: Yes they can be owned. The existing hermits are simply that - the existing hermits. Although they may stick with PC any new potential PC gamers will simply choose a console going forward since they don't need to purchase additional hardware such as mouse, keyboard, monitor, gaming video card etc.. and pay additional fees for OS licensing etc.. Buy an Xbox, bring it home and play. See how easy that was? No building pc's or walking into a computer store to buy a pre built at minumum $1000 plus monitor. None of that. Walk in to Best Buy, hook it up to your existing 4k tv and be done with it. some hermits cant handle the ownage of being a hermit so they go back to console sheep yes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spicalicious 129 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Handsome Horse said: some hermits cant handle the ownage of being a hermit so they go back to console sheep yes. Honestly though, the old arguments that pc is better than console will soon no longer be valid. It's just the way it is, boys. Sure, Microsoft should be credited with helping to evolve 3d gaming to what it is today. They were working in the gaming industry when Sony was still making stereos sand speakers and had no notion of gaming whatsoever. How do we all forget that MS facilitated early 3d game development back in the 90's with DirectX. And it's mostly because of Microsoft's platform that allowed gaming to evolve to what it is today. Xbox is the future of gaming whether you like it or not. DirectX and MS's gaming platform is called Xbox? Do you see why it's called Xbox? This should be common knowledge but not everyone is aware of this older information. MS a veteran in this business homies, we ain't goin nowhere!!!! got that fools? Edited April 28, 2019 by Spicalicious 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Spicalicious said: Honestly though, the old arguments that pc is better than console will soon no longer be valid. It's just the way it is, boys. Sure, Microsoft should be credited with helping to evolve 3d gaming to what it is today. They were working in the gaming industry when Sony was still making stereos sand speakers and had no notion of gaming whatsoever. How do we all forget that MS facilitated early 3d game development back in the 90's with DirectX. And it's mostly because of Microsoft's platform that allowed gaming to evolve to what it is today. Xbox is the future of gaming whether you like it or not. DirectX and MS's gaming platform is called Xbox? Do you see why it's called Xbox? This should be common knowledge but not everyone is aware of this older information. MS a veteran in this business homies, we ain't goin nowhere!!!! got that fools? i'll always own a console or 2. and i remember direct x's origin. it was originally made by lithtech who got screwed over so they renamed it lithtech Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spicalicious 129 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) If MS Windows never existed then gaming would possibly be different today. Would it exist or be as big as it is today? Edited April 28, 2019 by Spicalicious Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bhytre 2,753 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 THHBR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,225 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, bhytre said: THHBR https://www.pcgamer.com/analyst-predicts-20m-people-will-abandon-gaming-pcs-for-checks-notes-tv-gaming-platforms/ Yes they have. Edited April 28, 2019 by lynux3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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