Gears 5 breaks records as XGS biggest launch this gen

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6 hours ago, JONBpc said:

3 million players over a weekend regardless of anything is still a good number

 

Its double of Gears 4 

 

And im not sure why you think all 3 million of those come from the 2 dollar GP deal

because he's biased  

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Now we also know why they were hiding the game's campaign. The pre-orders numbers already painted a grim picture. They knew this game wasn't worth the time to show.

 

and that explains all the bugs and glitches reported. budget was already getting cut due to phenomenally low interest from gamers and rock-bottom preorder #'s.

 

 

Edited September 17, 2019 by Bodycount N

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1 minute ago, Bodycount N said:

Now we also know why they were hiding the game's campaign. The pre-orders numbers already painted a grim picture. They knew this game wasn't worth the time to show.

 

and that explains all the bugs and glitches reported. budget was already getting cut due to phenomenally low interest from gamers and rock-bottom preorder #'s.

 

 

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http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/05/uk_sales_charts_days_gone_is_number_one_for_third_week_running

 

 

Days gone is a bigger franchise than Gears, confirmed. 

 

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8 minutes ago, Bodycount N said:

Now we also know why they were hiding the game's campaign. The pre-orders numbers already painted a grim picture. They knew this game wasn't worth the time to show.

 

and that explains all the bugs and glitches reported. budget was already getting cut due to phenomenally low interest from gamers and rock-bottom preorder #'s.

 

 

Haven't experienced any of these issues.. very strange indeed.

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Sony BEND (vita dev) created a new ip bigger than MS's best this gen. these guys at bend deserve a round of applause.

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1 hour ago, DynamiteCop! said:

My assumption is they're kind of pulling a Sony, it seems like they both are. Not doing anything else really this gen and saving everything for next. 

Sony has at least 4 to 5 HUGE exclusive games between now and next gen 

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Just now, Goukosan said:

Sony has at least 4 to 5 HUGE exclusive games between now and next gen 

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3 hours ago, DynamiteCop! said:

Gears 5 was the catalyst to garner attention, and it's working. With all the new developers they have the goal is to get things to a point where game releases will be so frequent that people will not unsubscribe. They'll fill out the year with AA games inside the gaps of AAA games.

 

It's a good plan. 

Yep.  This is definitely the plan.  That's what I mean by them basically throwing the rest of this gen to push Gamepass so hard and basically set it up for next gen.  They're not concerned with immediate financial return.. they're playing a longer game.  They're essentially making using (or trying) the service a no brainer.  Once people are more open to the prospect of using the service, needing to always be connected online, and understanding what the service is and what you get... they're hoping that as releases become more frequent and bigger games start to hit, people will see the value in spending $9 per month on it and remained subbed most of the time.

 

It's a dangerous game though.  There's risk of devaluing your IP and creating a large group of people who may never want to spend $60 on your games again.  Having that choice though is great for consumers.  I hope they can financially make it work.  I can tell you right now, it's kind of nice even on PC to have it and then click on that "discover your next favorite game" and see come cool random game pop up and give it a try that would maybe wouldn't have before.  It really makes trying new games easier.  I really like that about it.

2 hours ago, Goukosan said:

yea that's a good plan... but it's not there yet.... it's not frequent enough as yet to stop people from unsubscribing.....maybe by next gen. 

For sure.  I just wish we had a clue about anything past Halo Infinite.  We really don't know what they have coming and how close it will be for the Scarlett launch.  Hopefully they got their ducks in a row and from then on can consistently put out good content... otherwise yea, people will just continue to use it for the month that a big game releases and cancel after.

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3 minutes ago, Remij_ said:

Yep.  This is definitely the plan.  That's what I mean by them basically throwing the rest of this gen to push Gamepass so hard and basically set it up for next gen.  They're not concerned with immediate financial return.. they're playing a longer game.  They're essentially making using (or trying) the service a no brainer.  Once people are more open to the prospect of using the service, needing to always be connected online, and understanding what the service is and what you get... they're hoping that as releases become more frequent and bigger games start to hit, people will see the value in spending $9 per month on it and remained subbed most of the time.

 

It's a dangerous game though.  There's risk of devaluing your IP and creating a large group of people who may never want to spend $60 on your games again.  Having that choice though is great for consumers.  I hope they can financially make it work.  I can tell you right now, it's kind of nice even on PC to have it and then click on that "discover your next favorite game" and see come cool random game pop up and give it a try that would maybe wouldn't have before.  It really makes trying new games easier.  I really like that about it.

For sure.  I just wish we had a clue about anything past Halo Infinite.  We really don't know what they have coming and how close it will be for the Scarlett launch.  Hopefully they got their ducks in a row and from then on can consistently put out good content... otherwise yea, people will just continue to use it for the month that a big game releases and cancel after.

Exactly, Gears 5 will eventually become profitable and it will continue to generate. We're in a different age. 

 

Benji has basically said Microsoft will be literally impossible to gauge going forward, all of what they're doing is so radically different and varied that there's no way to break down how well or bad anything is doing. 

Edited September 17, 2019 by DynamiteCop!

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11 minutes ago, Goukosan said:

Sony has at least 4 to 5 HUGE exclusive games between now and next gen 

They do.  But it's concerning that apparently they have shelved a bunch of development.  They have been sitting on the same games for a couple of years now.  We've basically known of everything that is set to release for the rest of the gen for years.

 

It's still huge though.  They've got what will likely be the best games of the generation left to release.  LMAO how the fuck can you beat Final Fantasy 7 Remake, and TLOU2... potentially within months of each other... as well as Death Stranding and potentially Ghosts of Tsushima?

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Just now, Remij_ said:

They do.  But it's concerning that apparently they have shelved a bunch of development.  They have been sitting on the same games for a couple of years now.  We've basically known of everything that is set to release for the rest of the gen for years.

 

It's still huge though.  They've got what will likely be the best games of the generation left to release.  LMAO how the fuck can you beat Final Fantasy 7 Remake, and TLOU2... potentially within months of each other... as well as Death Stranding and potentially Ghosts of Tsushima?

Because FF7 is timed, Death Stranding could be a total bust and there's no certainty with the other two. The PS4 has already lived its life, it was a glaring success, their best move would be both TLOU2 and Ghosts as cross-generational launch titles. 

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1 minute ago, DynamiteCop! said:

Because FF7 is timed, Death Stranding could be a total bust and there's no certainty with the other two. The PS4 has already lived its life, it was a glaring success, their best move would be both TLOU2 and Ghosts as cross-generational launch titles. 

Your opinion doesn't stop these games from being huge, huge releases for a platform and community that's about  a year out from transitioning into a new generation (with PS4 backwards compatibility). PlayStation 4 has lived its life? PlayStation 4 has outsold Switch, a new system that's selling very well, every year since the Switch has released. Hell, the PlayStation 4 has so far pushed more units in the last 2 quarters worldwide than Switch has so far... by like a million units. Extremely impressive for a system getting ready to get into its 6th year and a system that has "lived its life". This isn't the Xbox One.

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1 minute ago, lynux3 said:

Your opinion doesn't stop these games from being huge, huge releases for a platform and community that's about  a year out from transitioning into a new generation (with PS4 backwards compatibility). PlayStation 4 has lived its life? PlayStation 4 has outsold Switch, a new system that's selling very well, every year since the Switch has released. Hell, the PlayStation 4 has so far pushed more units in the last 2 quarters worldwide than Switch has so far... by like a million units. Extremely impressive for a system getting ready to get into its 6th year and a system that has "lived its life". This isn't the Xbox One.

I think you're like taking some kind of obscure offense, the console is EoL, flat out. There's no reason to blow any loads on it in 2020 regardless of its success, total waste of energy. It has lived its life, it was a huge success, those two games would be better served as a push for PlayStation 5 than the PlayStation 4, that doesn't mean the games can't be cross-generational but pushing them for their newest system would be a better decision. 

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I expected higher numbers given the deals tbh. 

3m, which the majority would be GP but not all. That suggests that GP subs are only a few million. Lucky to be over 5m and most def not 10m.

 

I still don't know how this is supposed to be profitable for MS, even long term. The reported fee for just DMCV was like 40m or something. That's more than an entire month's revenue from GP, not counting all the other games and costs of running the service. 

 

Incredible value to the consumer but just can't see how it makes sense for MS. They need netflix numbers for it to be profitable long term.

 

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1 minute ago, DynamiteCop! said:

I think you're like taking some kind of obscure offense, the console is EoL, flat out. There's no reason to blow any loads on it in 2020 regardless of its success, total waste of energy. It has lived its life, it was a huge success, those two games would be better served as a push for PlayStation 5 than the PlayStation 4, that doesn't mean the games can't be cross-generational but pushing them for their newest system would be a better decision. 

Those games will be pushed through backwards compatibility or some kind of enhancement patch. All of these games will release before next gen PlayStation arrives, including Ghost of Tsushima. PlayStation 4 still has plenty of leg left for the rest of this year, next year and the foreseeable future. EoL means the console is no longer useful for said company, being manufactured, and sold to retail/consumers which is not true now or the foreseeable future. Sony will continue to build and ship PlayStation 4 well after next gen PlayStation releases. Like I said, PlayStation 4 continues to outsell Switch annually and trounce the Xbox One. How can it be EoL?

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6 minutes ago, lynux3 said:

Those games will be pushed through backwards compatibility or some kind of enhancement patch. All of these games will release before next gen PlayStation arrives, including Ghost of Tsushima. PlayStation 4 still has plenty of leg left for the rest of this year, next year and the foreseeable future. EoL means the console is no longer useful for said company, being manufactured, and sold to retail/consumers which is not true now or the foreseeable future. Sony will continue to build and ship PlayStation 4 well after next gen PlayStation releases. Like I said, PlayStation 4 continues to outsell Switch annually and trounce the Xbox One. How can it be EoL?

It's not outselling the Switch this year. 

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17 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said:

I think you're like taking some kind of obscure offense, the console is EoL, flat out. There's no reason to blow any loads on it in 2020 regardless of its success, total waste of energy. It has lived its life, it was a huge success, those two games would be better served as a push for PlayStation 5 than the PlayStation 4, that doesn't mean the games can't be cross-generational but pushing them for their newest system would be a better decision. 

 

uh uh, you arent getting off that easy

 

PS4

 

Death Stranding

Dreams

Final Fantasy 7 Remake

Ghost of Tsushima

Guilty Gear 2020

The Last of Us 2

Nioh 2

Persona 5 Royal

Shenmue 3

Yakuza 7

 

 

Xbox One

 

Ori and the Will of the WIsps

Star Wars: Rise of Skywalker 4K

 

 

get your butt ready, its going to get blasted when you see how many more ps4's will be pushed by ff7, tlou2, and even cyberpunk

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Just now, DynamiteCop! said:

It's not outselling the Switch this year. 

It doesn't matter if it outsells Switch this year or not at the end; it's the fact that PlayStation 4 is outselling it period... in its 5th year. With dumbed down Switch launching later this month it probably won't, but it will be within a million units.

 

Glad to see you dropped your poor viewpoint on what is considered EoL.

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59 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said:

Death Stranding

Final Fantasy 7 Remake

Ghost of Tsushima

The Last of Us 2

Nioh 2

Persona 5 Royal

Shenmue 3

Yakuza 7

 

What exclusives does Xbox have for the next 14 months?