GAME OF THE GEN

[Ike★ 2,919]

Kaz triggered AF!!!  
 

FFT is the best PS1 RPG IMO. 

[James Skywalker 528]

24 minutes ago, Sabo said:

Only thing you said that had any value is that you're drunk. Come back when you're sober and actually make sure you're understanding the point I'm making. You literally said nothing that challenged anything I said and jumped to a lot of false assumptions...

You're a sad boy, Sabo. I feel melancholy for this cowy. Everyone must commiserate for this regret. 

Final Fantasy VII is the best one. It's the number seven. Everyone at the slots at the casino's is trying to get 7-7-7. 

I notice that every single point you made about the game being bad was pointless. I guess your life is a paradox.

Edited January 5, 2020 by James Skywalker

[kaz 2,440]

1 hour ago, Ike said:

Kaz triggered AF!!!  
 

FFT is the best PS1 RPG IMO. 

It's not, because they are all equally good. FFT lacks atmosphere and story in my opinion. 

[kaz 2,440]

1 hour ago, Sabo said:

Only thing you said that had any value is that you're drunk. Come back when you're sober and actually make sure you're understanding the point I'm making. You literally said nothing that challenged anything I said and jumped to a lot of false assumptions...

I'm still drunk and my point stands lol. if you hate ff7 for the sake of it, that's fine, but don't say it's all shiny but no depth. I actually addressed everything you said and I still cringe over the fact you tried to explain different types of materia, as if nobody understands the game concept except yourself. 

 

You clearly hate the game, and I don't like people taking shit out their asses for no reason. 

 

 

 

buuh buuh materia adds nothing to the game... i dont have unlimited combinations at the start of the game buuh. fuck off. You never seen the end of FF7, that's my opinion. 

 

The FFX part makes me even laugh more. absolute plebs. 

[kokujin 558]

On 2020-01-01 at 1:07 PM, roflpwnedz said:

 

 

 

 

is all this stuff really "leaked"?

awwww meeeea.  vids gone 

[Delita 698]

7 minutes ago, kaz said:

It's not, because they are all equally good. FFT lacks atmosphere and story in my opinion. 

Fft lacks story? 

[kaz 2,440]

1 minute ago, Delita said:

Fft lacks story? 

definitely.

[Delita 698]

7 minutes ago, kaz said:

definitely.

Yeah it’s nothing compared to some guy having amnesia and finding out all his memories belong to another guy that died before the start of the game. Oscar caliber writing there 

[kaz 2,440]

2 minutes ago, Delita said:

Yeah it’s nothing compared to some guy having amnesia and finding out all his memories belong to another guy that died before the start of the game. Oscar caliber writing there 

that's the entire plot of ff7 

[Delita 698]

3 minutes ago, kaz said:

that's the entire plot of ff7 

What else is there?

 

sephiroth has mommy issues with jenova

aeris dies

cid beats his wife

shinra expirements with people

 

a comet comes down and kills everyone. The end. That’s all I remember.

 

meh I prefer fft story but to each there own. I’m drunk too btw

[kaz 2,440]

6 minutes ago, Delita said:

What else is there?

 

sephiroth has mommy issues with jenova

aeris dies

cid beats his wife

shinra expirements with people

 

a comet comes down and kills everyone. The end. That’s all I remember.

 

meh I prefer fft story but to each there own. I’m drunk too btw

yea pretty much, jenova is also the main culprit which people sometimes forget. sephiroth isn't active until the end. plottiwst.

turks and cait sith espionage. gold saucer debacle. 

cid beats his wife and then blames her for everything.

palmer boss fight.

demon wall boss fight.

cloud slowly turning into jimbo and then falling down the stairs like in rofl's gif

everything with hojo

 

pretty much yeah

 

I like the story, I don't think its perfect. it's also not the best ff, 14 is. heavensward sucked.

 

Edited January 5, 2020 by kaz

[James Skywalker 528]

17 minutes ago, kaz said:

yea pretty much, jenova is also the main culprit which people sometimes forget. sephiroth isn't active until the end. plottiwst.

turks and cait sith espionage. gold saucer debacle. 

cid beats his wife and then blames her for everything.

palmer boss fight.

demon wall boss fight.

cloud slowly turning into jimbo and then falling down the stairs like in rofl's gif

everything with hojo

 

pretty much yeah

 

I like the story, I don't think its perfect. it's also not the best ff, 14 is. heavensward sucked.

 

I'd give it a 7/11. I think it served its convenience.

[Sabo 442]

5 hours ago, kaz said:

I'm still drunk and my point stands lol. if you hate ff7 for the sake of it, that's fine, but don't say it's all shiny but no depth. I actually addressed everything you said and I still cringe over the fact you tried to explain different types of materia, as if nobody understands the game concept except yourself. 

 

You clearly hate the game, and I don't like people taking shit out their asses for no reason. 

 

 

 

buuh buuh materia adds nothing to the game... i dont have unlimited combinations at the start of the game buuh. fuck off. You never seen the end of FF7, that's my opinion. 

 

The FFX part makes me even laugh more. absolute plebs. 

How drunk are you? You still don't understand the point I was making. The reason I brought up the different types of materia is because they DIRECTLY CORRELATE to the point I was making, you fuckin' lush... The whole point of everything I was pointing out was how late you are able to experiment with the system. Support materia is limited and can only be found, not bought. It's the main piece required to even do Materia combinations which is why it's called SUPPORT. Do you see the problem with shops not selling Support materia yet?

 

 The reason you kept bringing up "All" is because it's literally the only Support materia you will have for the majority of Disc 1. You have two chances to grab an "Elemental" on Disc 1 but one of them is easily missed. You have a chance to pick up "Added Effect" in the Cave of Gi but it's only available for a brief moment and also easily missed. If you do miss it, guess what? You don't find another one until halfway through disc 2. "Added Cut"? Don't get that until Great Glacier which is around the mid point of Disc 2. "Magic Counter"? Can't get that until you obtain Omnislash and even then it won't become a Battle Square reward until Disc 2. "Counter"? Guess what, you need at least a Black Chocobo for that one. You aren't breeding one of those until you're deep into Disc 2 because the nuts and grass type required to breed high tier chocobos is locked to late game areas. "Final Attack"? Heh, that one requires a Gold Chocobo (the absolute top tier Chocobo). "MP Absorb", "HP Absorb", "MP Turbo", "Quadra Magic", "Sneak Attack", "Steal as Well"? Yeah, all of those aren't accessible until halfway through disc 2.

 

For 95% of these, there only exists ONE. Which means if you want more then you get to grind them to Master level. And that takes awhile even with Triple Growth rate applied. You brought up weapon and armor having materia slots. And yeah, that's true. But tell me, what good are those slots when you don't have the required materia for materia combinations? Do you see the problem with the system yet? Do you see how poorly planned out it is, because IT IS poorly planned out. That is not my opinion, that is an objective fact. All the information in the previous paragraph is not my opinion, those are the locations where you can find the much needed Support materia that is required to even do materia combinations. Fact.

 

Oh, but this game is so.... What were your words? "Perfectly balance" I believe is what you said. Yeah.... riiiiiight. Let's ignore Beta will steamroll everything in disc 1. Let's ignore your characters grossly outlevel enemies on disc 2 because standard enemies give far more XP than they should. Let's ignore the fuckin' Magic Defense stat is bugged and doesn't even work.  

 

The game clearly wasn't play tested enough because if it was then such a glaringly obvious flaw with the materia system and all the other dumb shit would've been discovered.

Edited January 5, 2020 by Sabo

[kaz 2,440]

9 hours ago, Sabo said:

How drunk are you? You still don't understand the point I was making. The reason I brought up the different types of materia is because they DIRECTLY CORRELATE to the point I was making, you fuckin' lush... The whole point of everything I was pointing out was how late you are able to experiment with the system. Support materia is limited and can only be found, not bought. It's the main piece required to even do Materia combinations which is why it's called SUPPORT. Do you see the problem with shops not selling Support materia yet?

 

 The reason you kept bringing up "All" is because it's literally the only Support materia you will have for the majority of Disc 1. You have two chances to grab an "Elemental" on Disc 1 but one of them is easily missed. You have a chance to pick up "Added Effect" in the Cave of Gi but it's only available for a brief moment and also easily missed. If you do miss it, guess what? You don't find another one until halfway through disc 2. "Added Cut"? Don't get that until Great Glacier which is around the mid point of Disc 2. "Magic Counter"? Can't get that until you obtain Omnislash and even then it won't become a Battle Square reward until Disc 2. "Counter"? Guess what, you need at least a Black Chocobo for that one. You aren't breeding one of those until you're deep into Disc 2 because the nuts and grass type required to breed high tier chocobos is locked to late game areas. "Final Attack"? Heh, that one requires a Gold Chocobo (the absolute top tier Chocobo). "MP Absorb", "HP Absorb", "MP Turbo", "Quadra Magic", "Sneak Attack", "Steal as Well"? Yeah, all of those aren't accessible until halfway through disc 2.

 

For 95% of these, there only exists ONE. Which means if you want more then you get to grind them to Master level. And that takes awhile even with Triple Growth rate applied. You brought up weapon and armor having materia slots. And yeah, that's true. But tell me, what good are those slots when you don't have the required materia for materia combinations? Do you see the problem with the system yet? Do you see how poorly planned out it is, because IT IS poorly planned out. That is not my opinion, that is an objective fact. All the information in the previous paragraph is not my opinion, those are the locations where you can find the much needed Support materia that is required to even do materia combinations. Fact.

 

Oh, but this game is so.... What were your words? "Perfectly balance" I believe is what you said. Yeah.... riiiiiight. Let's ignore Beta will steamroll everything in disc 1. Let's ignore your characters grossly outlevel enemies on disc 2 because standard enemies give far more XP than they should. Let's ignore the fuckin' Magic Defense stat is bugged and doesn't even work.  

 

The game clearly wasn't play tested enough because if it was then such a glaringly obvious flaw with the materia system and all the other dumb shit would've been discovered.

its all good. ff7 sucks

[Sabo 442]

I never said the game sucked. My first post in this thread was me DEFENDING the game and saying it was alright for it's time.

 

I also don't hate the materia system, I think it had a lot of potential but dumb decisions prevent the system from truly shining. The heart breaking part is all the parts ARE there, the game just gives it to you too late.

Edited January 6, 2020 by Sabo

[kaz 2,440]

35 minutes ago, Sabo said:

I never said the game sucked. My first post in this thread was me DEFENDING the game and saying it was alright for it's time.

 

I also don't hate the materia system, I think it had a lot of potential but dumb decisions prevent the system from truly shining. The heart breaking part is all the parts ARE there, the game just gives it to you too late.

it's all good, I get your points and I agree to an extend.  I was pissed for some reason yesterday and I think I tried to let it out on you. Sorry. 

 

I'm one of these guys that got introduced to RPGs in general by that game, I was a kid when I first played it and it was magical. Nostalgia yea, but I think it still holds up rather well, if you can get past the initial lego graphics.