102020393023445948594 2,223 Posted October 30, 2021 Author Share Posted October 30, 2021 so basically MS is future proofing itself for the inevitable sinking console sales problem they've created for themselves. Xbox will live on as a service for PC and.... [fill in the blank platform X] that will allow Xbox Gamepass on their hardware. imagine what Series X successor will sell. Half of the Series X which will probably do half of the Xbox one, and so forth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,725 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 How could Series sell less with a $300 S model? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,230 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Team 2019 said: How could Series sell less with a $300 S model? and there's Series S consoles available to buy right now. They're not selling out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,230 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) We have posts in this forum from Spring and Summer 2015 in which people are saying "damn, when are these true next-gen games finally coming?!?!?!" I remember it clearly. Nov 2013 - COD Ghost, cross-gen game that nobody liked Spring 2014 - Thief cross-gen game Sept 2014 - Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor cross-gen game (and that ended up being GOTY winner for alot of websites that year) Nov 2014 - COD Advanced Warfare (moderately liked), and AssCreed Unity bombed and was glitched as hell and had terrible framerate on the PS4/XBO, people were openly complaining about the CPUs in the consoles at that point. Nov 2014 - Re-release GTA5 for PS4/XBO to help keep people busy Take a moment to realize that people have owned PS4 and XBO consoles for one entire year, at this point. Look how barren it looks. Dying Light comes out in early 2015, its actually a third party game designed for just next-gen consoles, and you get the sense that people are playing the game because there's nothing else new to play, at that time. Its decently received. March 2015 - Ninja Theory's Devil May Cry reboot game (from 2013) is re-released for PS4/XBO March 2015 - Bloodborne comes out on PS4, and cows finally get a true AAA exclusive game that is designed for next gen (mostly). June 2015 - Batman Arkham Knight, a legit third-party game that definitely looks "next-gen" is finally released. And by late Oct and November 2015 do we finally start getting major third-party franchises rolling in, that are mostly designed for next-gen. COD Black Ops III, Fallout 4, AssCreed Syndicate. Edited October 30, 2021 by jehurey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Impossible 407 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 2 hours ago, jehurey said: We have posts in this forum from Spring and Summer 2015 in which people are saying "damn, when are these true next-gen games finally coming?!?!?!" I remember it clearly. Nov 2013 - COD Ghost, cross-gen game that nobody liked Spring 2014 - Thief cross-gen game Sept 2014 - Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor cross-gen game (and that ended up being GOTY winner for alot of websites that year) Nov 2014 - COD Advanced Warfare (moderately liked), and AssCreed Unity bombed and was glitched as hell and had terrible framerate on the PS4/XBO, people were openly complaining about the CPUs in the consoles at that point. Nov 2014 - Re-release GTA5 for PS4/XBO to help keep people busy Take a moment to realize that people have owned PS4 and XBO consoles for one entire year, at this point. Look how barren it looks. Dying Light comes out in early 2015, its actually a third party game designed for just next-gen consoles, and you get the sense that people are playing the game because there's nothing else new to play, at that time. Its decently received. March 2015 - Ninja Theory's Devil May Cry reboot game (from 2013) is re-released for PS4/XBO March 2015 - Bloodborne comes out on PS4, and cows finally get a true AAA exclusive game that is designed for next gen (mostly). June 2015 - Batman Arkham Knight, a legit third-party game that definitely looks "next-gen" is finally released. And by late Oct and November 2015 do we finally start getting major third-party franchises rolling in, that are mostly designed for next-gen. COD Black Ops III, Fallout 4, AssCreed Syndicate. Lemmings are used to MS ditching consoles like a rich guy leaving his wife for his assistant. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, B C said: so basically MS is future proofing itself for the inevitable sinking console sales problem they've created for themselves. Xbox will live on as a service for PC and.... [fill in the blank platform X] that will allow Xbox Gamepass on their hardware. imagine what Series X successor will sell. Half of the Series X which will probably do half of the Xbox one, and so forth. You're still not getting it, third party games sell better on Xbox. Your own post at the beginning of the thread completely fucked you. You're also conflating a hypothetical sold-through figure with a shipment figure, how dumb can you possibly get? Edited October 31, 2021 by DynamiteCop Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,255 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 33 minutes ago, DynamiteCop said: You're still not getting it, third party games sell better on Xbox. Your own post at the beginning of the thread completely fucked you. You're also conflating a hypothetical sold-through figure with a shipment figure, how dumb can you possibly get? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Goukosan said: Let's see shall we. Roughly 132 million modern PlayStation consoles in circulation with a third party sales margin of 37% Roughly 65 million modern Xbox consoles in circulation with a sales margin of 19%... That's 103% more consoles in circulation with a game sales volume increase of only 94%. Games sell better on Xbox. Edited October 31, 2021 by DynamiteCop Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,255 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, DynamiteCop said: Let's see shall we. Roughly 132 million modern PlayStation consoles in circulation with a third party sales margin of 37% Roughly 65 million modern Xbox consoles in circulation with a sales margin of 19%... That's 103% more consoles in circulation with a game sales volume increase of only 94%. Games sell better on Xbox. The infamous DynamiteCop BS pull out of my ass math is back Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Goukosan said: The infamous DynamiteCop BS pull out of my ass math is back There's nothing BS about it. It's completely on point, over double the hardware in the market with less than double the software sales. Edited October 31, 2021 by DynamiteCop Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,255 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, DynamiteCop said: There's nothing BS about it. It's completely on point, over double the hardware in the market with less than double the software sales. Like I said, the faulty DynamiteCop math is back Edited October 31, 2021 by Goukosan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Impossible 407 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 22 minutes ago, DynamiteCop said: Let's see shall we. Roughly 132 million modern PlayStation consoles in circulation with a third party sales margin of 37% Roughly 65 million modern Xbox consoles in circulation with a sales margin of 19%... That's 103% more consoles in circulation with a game sales volume increase of only 94%. Games sell better on Xbox. Lol either I'm too stupid to get how you mathed this out or you're actually retarded. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Mr. Impossible said: Lol either I'm too stupid to get how you mathed this out or you're actually retarded. It's very easy to understand. Per console owner PlayStation gamers purchase less games. Over double the circulation of hardware, less than double the volume of sales. Get it? Games sell better on Xbox. Edited October 31, 2021 by DynamiteCop Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,255 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mr. Impossible said: Lol either I'm too stupid to get how you mathed this out or you're actually retarded. Not only is Dynamite cop fully retard by trying to claim selling less is more.... He doesn't realize the numbers are solely ubisoft sales for 2021 so far Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Goukosan said: Not only is Dynamite cop fully retard by trying to claim selling less is more.... He doesn't realize the numbers are solely ubisoft sales for 2021 so far Oh yeah? 9 hours ago, DynamiteCop said: This is actually speaking to the opposite, sure total sales are higher but unit sales per owner on Playstation are much lower. This is what Ubisoft was speaking about 5 years ago, Xbox users are more valuable to them than PlayStation users. This is quite literally saying PlayStation users do not buy games. This completely backfired on you. Clearly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,255 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, DynamiteCop said: It's very easy to understand. Per console owner PlayStation gamers purchase less games. Over double the circulation of hardware, less than double the volume of sales. Get it? Games sell better on Xbox. Selling less is more Oh and by the way, that's ubisoft numbers not the entire industry. So you are doubly wrong as always Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,255 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, DynamiteCop said: Oh yeah? Clearly. So you are retarded 😂🤣 You're claiming that 37% isn't exactly twice as much as 19% X 2...so that must mean Xbox sells more games Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Impossible 407 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, DynamiteCop said: It's very easy to understand. Per console owner PlayStation gamers purchase less games. Over double the circulation of hardware, less than double the volume of sales. Get it? Games sell better on Xbox. Lmfao the fuck. So if, full disclosure I'm high and shit but like if 100 people own a Playstation and 30% of them buy Madden (30) vs 65 people who own an Xbox to which 40% of them buy Madden (26), the Xbox sold more? But you didn't even math that. You said Sony had a larger install base and larger percentage sold, yet some how Xbox sells more games? Like I don't get it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Just now, Goukosan said: So you are retarded 😂🤣 You're claiming that 37% isn't exactly twice as much as 19% X 2...so that must mean Xbox sells more games Are you fucking slow or something? Over double the hardware and less than double the software sales. You're not even inquisitive enough as a thinking human being to understand that I'm not talking about total sales volume; which has been made functionally clear from the onset. Per user, per console games sell less on PlayStation. An Xbox user buys more, Xbox users are more valuable. https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/02/ubisoft-suggests-xbox-one-owners-are-more-valuable-than-ps4-owners/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,255 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, DynamiteCop said: Are you fucking slow or something? Over double the hardware and less than double the software sales. You're not even inquisitive enough as a thinking human being to understand that I'm not talking about total sales volume; which has been made functionally clear from the onset. Per user, per console games sell less on PlayStation. An Xbox user buys more, Xbox users are more valuable. https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/02/ubisoft-suggests-xbox-one-owners-are-more-valuable-than-ps4-owners/ Don't back track now, you said Xbox sells more games. Selling almost half less games is not more no matter how your dumbass spins it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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