Tears of the Cows 1,233 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 1 minute ago, FIREPOWER said: Gamepass is most definitely not profitable. They have to pay publishers and devs for their games in GP in addition to developing games from the same pool of money. When you factor in that most of the GP subscribers are freeloaders like Cuckstz who probably got in on the dollar deal you realize that they aren't making any profit at all from it. That's why they bundle their other businesses like Surface Tablet into Xbox revenue and they never talk about profits except for the time they were forced to confess to the courts that they make no profit 0-15 https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/26/23425029/microsoft-xbox-game-pass-profitable-revenues Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FIREPOWER 765 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Ramza said: That's not a financial statement, I want to see a proper Xbox division income statement. This is revenue earned, this doesn't account spendings. Which mean it doesn't account profits. I'm going to be an accountant in September, you can't fool me. Cuckstz the Retard and other slow lemshits think revenue is the same thing as profit. Phil and MS count on the retards being too slow to realize the difference. Nintendo and Sony report profits from their gaming divisions. MS reports profits from their company as a whole but they never report profits on Xbox, and that's because they don't make any profits Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tears of the Cows 1,233 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 1 minute ago, FIREPOWER said: Cuckstz the Retard and other slow lemshits think revenue is the same thing as profit. Phil and MS count on the retards being too slow to realize the difference. Nintendo and Sony report profits from their gaming divisions. MS reports profits from their company as a whole but they never report profits on Xbox, and that's because they don't make any profits 0-16 he keeps going every post he makes is another L Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. House 3,371 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Tears of the Cows said: “The gaming business is a profitable and high-growth business for Microsoft,” says a Microsoft spokesperson. “The console gaming business is traditionally a hardware subsidy model. Game companies sell consoles at a loss to attract new customers. Profits are generated in game sales and online service subscriptions.“ https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/6/22422691/microsoft-xbox-consoles-profit-software-services-revenue-apple-epic-games-trial A company that spends 200 billions per year and make a one dollar profit is technically profitable as well. If they make two the next year they can literally says that there's serious growth, after all the profit margin increased a 100%. Produce the financial statements or get out. I don't need PR garbage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tears of the Cows 1,233 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Just now, Ramza said: A company that spends 200 billions per year and make a one dollar profit is technically profitable as well. If they make two the next year they can literally says that there's serious growth, after all the profit margin increased a 100%. Produce the financial statements or get out. I don't need PR garbage. LMAO!!! bu bu they lyinnnn 😢 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FIREPOWER 765 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Tears of the Cows said: 0-15 https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/26/23425029/microsoft-xbox-game-pass-profitable-revenues If it's so profitable why don't they report the GamePass profits in their financials like every other company? You are a fucking retard. That article is using Phil as a source, the same lying asshole who said Shitpass leads to more sales of games https://www.gamesindustry.biz/phil-spencer-game-pass-leads-to-more-game-sales Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tears of the Cows 1,233 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Just now, FIREPOWER said: If it's so profitable why don't they report the GamePass profits in their financials like every other company? You are a fucking retard. That article is using Phil as a source, the same lying asshole who said Shitpass leads to more sales of games https://www.gamesindustry.biz/phil-spencer-game-pass-leads-to-more-game-sales He changed the entire subject LMAO 0-16!!!! hes the Detroit lions Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. House 3,371 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Just now, Tears of the Cows said: LMAO!!! bu bu they lyinnnn 😢 I never said anyone lied. Are you stupid? You know what doesn't lie? Numbers. You haven't produced any. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FIREPOWER 765 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Just now, Tears of the Cows said: LMAO!!! bu bu they lyinnnn 😢 Cuckstz the Retard doesn't know that financials are the only way to determine if a company is profitable or not. He relies on shitty clickbait articles and Phil Spencer interviews The idiot is posting all the links in the world but none of them shows ShitBox making any profit in the financials "😭 BUt PHiL SaID!!!!!...." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FIREPOWER 765 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Ramza said: I never said anyone lied. Are you stupid? You know what doesn't lie? Numbers. You haven't produced any. He has no numbers. MS stopped giving out numbers in the XB1 era after Halo 5 flopped. Since then they haven't given out sales numbers and they don't give out the raw numbers from their gaming division anymore. They just give out percentage increase or decrease in "Xbox revenue " which they cook with the revenue numbers from surface tablets and their cloud division. You will not find any raw numbers showing profits and that's why Cuckstz is having a meltdown because the numbers don't exist anywhere since MS hides them Edited May 18, 2023 by FIREPOWER Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. House 3,371 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Just now, FIREPOWER said: He has no numbers. MS stopped giving out numbers in the XB1 era after Halo 5 flopped. Since then they haven't given out sales numbers and they don't give out the raw numbers from their gaming division anymore. They just give out percentage increase or decrease in "Xbox revenue " which they cook with the numbers with revenue numbers from surface tablets and their cloud division. You will not find any raw numbers showing profits and that's why Cuckstz is having a meltdown because the numbers don't exist anywhere since MS hides them Word. They do produce statements for the company as a whole. I don't think there's such a thing as Xbox division financial statements though and if it's only done internally to calculated the real profit from a single product line then it can be easily manipulated to reflect more positively. I'm pretty sure that the expenses related to the liabilities of the Xbox division alone makes it not profitable if you account Bethesda pricey acquisition and all the other smaller studios. Would be even more likely if they buy Activision Blizzard. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,299 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 i kid you not..............that dumbass ghost has actually had to be explained the difference between revenues and profits MORE THAN ONCE on this forum. yes............he's actually that stupid. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,717 Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Pretty much. If Starfield fails to do anything substantial for them... it's pretty much over. It will just show no ma Xbox has fucked up almost every possible thing they had going for them this generation. Literally every single fucking thing. Fucked up the Series X launch by not having Halo ready Fucked up with Halo by not having features or content ready Fucked up continuing GamePass momentum going in to 2022 Didn't release any games in 2022 basically... Fable, Perfect Dark, Everwild, Avowed all announced years ago with nothing to show for it... Perfect Dark lost their entire team and Crystal Dynamics took over... Failed to acquire Activision... The games they made exclusive from Bethesda are all flopping while the PS ones were high scoring... lol Phil still saying he understands and is learning from it... and that next year is going to be great and see's it all coming together.... Was willing to spend $69B on a publisher.. but couldn't steal some studio managers from Sony to change their clearly fucked up development culture... Couldn't put some of that money into securing exclusives for Xbox and PC.. Couldn't have made some new studios Just drop the fuck out of the console business and focus on PC and 3rd party shit at this point if you're not going to compete directly. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sugarhigh 519 Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Micropenis Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,617 Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Lemmings have been saying 'next year' for a near decade now and all still love Phil Spencer so can't see much of that changing tbh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,165 Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 What does Phil Spencer do exactly? Besides ask Satya for billions to buy multiple publishers in excess of almost $80B? One of which is failing to come to fruition. I can’t believe he still has a job. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-GD-X★ 7,814 Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 10 hours ago, Remij said: Pretty much. If Starfield fails to do anything substantial for them... it's pretty much over. It will just show no ma Xbox has fucked up almost every possible thing they had going for them this generation. Literally every single fucking thing. Fucked up the Series X launch by not having Halo ready Fucked up with Halo by not having features or content ready Fucked up continuing GamePass momentum going in to 2022 Didn't release any games in 2022 basically... Fable, Perfect Dark, Everwild, Avowed all announced years ago with nothing to show for it... Perfect Dark lost their entire team and Crystal Dynamics took over... Failed to acquire Activision... The games they made exclusive from Bethesda are all flopping while the PS ones were high scoring... lol Phil still saying he understands and is learning from it... and that next year is going to be great and see's it all coming together.... Was willing to spend $69B on a publisher.. but couldn't steal some studio managers from Sony to change their clearly fucked up development culture... Couldn't put some of that money into securing exclusives for Xbox and PC.. Couldn't have made some new studios Just drop the fuck out of the console business and focus on PC and 3rd party shit at this point if you're not going to compete directly. This! Especially the bolded part. I think this will be the last traditional Xbox. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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