The Mother Fucker 26 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Remij_ said: So you were singing the praises of FH4 earlier...and how amazing it is on AMD gpus.... and now that I've brought up this tiny thing.. that YOU could easily fix.. you're saying I'm a fanboy because I'm calling the game optimized... and you want to remove it because it's a shitty MS app.. Ok dude.. lmao I'm still impressed with my FH4 score, I didn't expect beat an optimized RTX 2080 Ti What I was unimpressed with you, was your quick fanboy defense of Microsoft's shitty Windows Apps store. There encrypted game store is the reason I cannot add game profiles like I can for my Steam or Uplay games. Edited October 6, 2019 by The Mother Fucker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,682 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Just now, lynux3 said: Disagree completely. It's a cheap add-in box fan. You can't expect to use that cooler and utilize the 3700X to its full extent. It would be a disservice to that CPU. Also, the voltages are an issue and that cooler. It's not going to hold up he's just going to end up thermal throttling that CPU all the time, guaranteed. I think that maybe a 3600 is better suited for his application. No... you CAN and you SHOULD be able to expect that. The stock CPU cooler should handle and be able to dissipate enough heat so that the CPU can function within advertised limits. That's pretty self explanatory. The performance difference is likely negligible... the only REAL tangible difference will be temps and noise. And these CPUs are rated for high temps... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,682 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Just now, The Mother Fucker said: Im still impressed with FH4 score, I don't expect beat an optimized RTX 2080 Ti What I was unimpressed with you, was your quick fanboy defense of Microsoft's shitty Windows Apps store. There encrypted game store is the reason I cannot add game profiles like I can for my Steam or Uplay games. That's an AMD problem then... because I have no problem making custom profiles for Windows store apps... Why is that fanboyish again? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Mother Fucker 26 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Remij_ said: That's an AMD problem then... because I have no problem making custom profiles for Windows store apps... Why is that fanboyish again? Defending Windows Apps, "those shitty MS apps are 2 of the most optimized PC games to release this gen lmao" So Gears 5 and Forza Horizon 4 are what you believe is the two most optimized PC games for this gen. You beyond dumb if you believe that. Edited October 6, 2019 by The Mother Fucker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,682 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, The Mother Fucker said: Defending Windows Apps, "those shitty MS apps are 2 of the most optimized PC games to release this gen lmao" So Gears 5 and Forza Horizon 4 are what you believe is the two most optimized PC games for this gen. You beyond dumb if you believe that. Yes.. they are https://www.game-debate.com/game/optimizationList Tons of other outlets also have FH4 very close to the top... and Gears 5 has already been praised for being well optimized. You're the one who is beyond dumb... especially for using FH4 as an example of optimized games for Radeon...and then hating on it for the opposite reason in this very thread Edited October 6, 2019 by Remij_ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,086 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 35 minutes ago, Remij_ said: Oh.. well.. if you think it's an AMD problem.. don't let me dissuade you.. lol It's definitely not an AMD problem. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,682 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Just now, DynamiteCop! said: It's definitely not an AMD problem. I know. I told him. He thinks his problem is because it's a shitty MS game and that he can't make a custom profile for it 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,099 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Remij_ said: No... you CAN and you SHOULD be able to expect that. The stock CPU cooler should handle and be able to dissipate enough heat so that the CPU can function within advertised limits. That's pretty self explanatory. The performance difference is likely negligible... the only REAL tangible difference will be temps and noise. And these CPUs are rated for high temps... No. I actually come from experience with this cooler. What kind of experience do you have with it? That's what I thought. The only thing it's good for is a desk ornament if you buy 3700X. This cooler is perfect for something like a 3600. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,682 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Just now, lynux3 said: No. I actually come from experience with this cooler. What kind of experience do you have with it? That's what I thought. The only thing it's good for is a desk ornament if you buy 3700X. This cooler is perfect for something like a 3600. Post some good evidence then.... I want to see this huge performance difference. And you don't have a 3700x either Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,636 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 I had a high stutter count when I first benched the game too . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Mother Fucker 26 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 8 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: It's definitely not an AMD problem. It's RX 5700 XT problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,086 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Just now, The Mother Fucker said: It's RX 5700 XT problem. Clearly not. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,682 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Just now, The Mother Fucker said: It's RX 5700 XT problem. No it's not... I just posted 2 pics of people with 5700XT's that have 0 stutter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Mother Fucker 26 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: Clearly not. 1 minute ago, Remij_ said: No it's not... I just posted 2 pics of people with 5700XT's that have 0 stutter. https://community.amd.com/thread/241045 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,636 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 I didn't notice any stutter in the game, even with a high stutter count . I would occasionally get a quick, random freeze , but that happened on every fh game I've played. PC and console . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,682 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 1 minute ago, The Mother Fucker said: https://community.amd.com/thread/241045 That's not the problem.. I can post pics of Nvidia users with high stutter counts in this benchmark too... It's something related to freesync/gsync/vsync and high refresh rates. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,682 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, JONBpc said: I didn't notice any stutter in the game, even with a high stutter count . I would occasionally get a quick, random freeze , but that happened on every fh game I've played. PC and console . Yea, it's basically counting tiny fluctuations in frametimes as "stutter"... you can't even see them while the bench is running. That's usually what happens when the refresh-rate and game aren't synced exactly right. It's not no damn 5700xt issue, or Radeon issue, or MS app issue... it's a combo of settings. I'd like The Mother Fucker to try 120hz instead of 144hz and run variable fps from the game option menu. See what that does to his stutter count. Edited October 6, 2019 by Remij_ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,099 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, Remij_ said: Post some good evidence then.... I want to see this huge performance difference. And you don't have a 3700x either It's the same cooler that came with the 2700X, a CPU that idles cooler, runs at lower voltages by default and has a lower boost frequency. I was losing a good 300-400MHz because the CPU wanted to throttle down. It's not a secret and you obviously haven't followed Zen releases so arguing with you over something so simple is pointless. You simply don't follow the topic... stick with the 4 core scrubs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,682 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Just now, lynux3 said: It's the same cooler that came with the 2700X, a CPU that idles cooler, runs at lower voltages by default and has a lower boost frequency. I was losing a good 300-400MHz because the CPU wanted to throttle down. It's not a secret and you obviously haven't followed Zen releases so arguing with you over something so simple is pointless. You simply don't follow the topic... stick with the 4 core scrubs. Lame bait breh. If you could post some evidence that wasn't anecdotal that might really help your case... because I'm not convinced. You were probably losing 300-400mhz because you fucked up and put too much thermal paste on or something. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hot Sauce 2,734 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 "I'm looking to build a good gaming PC that won't break the bank." "Make sure you get an AIO, it's the only way to maximize your 8 core CPU" 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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