Twinblade★ 3,983 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 From America First to America Last. The next 4 years are going to be brutal. Link to post Share on other sites
Substatic 422 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Cooke (not admin cant help said: It's not spin. He's a fundamental globalist. There are positives and negatives to globalism. Globalism does enrich poorer nations but it also weakens the western democracies. We have lost so much manufacturing that we end up depending on a shady country with horrible human rights abuses for essential goods. The US economy will likely do better under Biden than Trump. You're finding spin to make that a bad thing. Edited December 15, 2020 by Substatic Link to post Share on other sites
Substatic 422 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Twinblade said: From America First to America Last. The next 4 years are going to be brutal. Interesting slogan spam, but the US Economy does better under Democrats. This includes Biden vs Trump 2021+ projections. Trump had one of the worst economies in history. I can't believe your sentence was written in seriousness. Considering Trump's attack on Democracy these last few weeks, I doubt he cares about that fake meme slogan you just repeated. Edited December 15, 2020 by Substatic Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,298 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Twinblade said: From America First to America Last. The next 4 years are going to be brutal. The only you have left is slogans, at this point. Link to post Share on other sites
Cooke 2,041 Posted December 16, 2020 Author Share Posted December 16, 2020 6 hours ago, Substatic said: The US economy will likely do better under Biden than Trump. You're finding spin to make that a bad thing. What's the barometer for this? The stock market? GDP? Wage growth? Job growth? If those are the metrics then Trump was better than Obama... Link to post Share on other sites
lostfool 680 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Cooke (not admin cant help said: What's the barometer for this? The stock market? GDP? Wage growth? Job growth? If those are the metrics then Trump was better than Obama... You are such a twit. Under Obama unemployment dropped by 1.3 percentage points. Under Trump by just .7 percentage points. That's one for Obama (and remember Obama inherited "The Great Recession"). Trump inherited a booming job growth and economy. GDP growth Obama was at 2.4% and remember he inherited the great Recession and trump wast at 2.5%. Remember Trump inherited a booming economy. So you guess you can give that to your lover Trump. Deficit...... Hahahahahaabhaha. It balloned under Trump by 10 trillion dollars. Obama wins this by a landslide. S and P grew at a rate of 7.5% under Obama and 12.2% under Trump, but it was because he cut corporate taxes. So I guess Trump wins that. Expendable income dropped under Trump. 2.6% down to 2.3%. See Trump didn't cut taxes on those who actually needed it. Also a lot of the new jobs under trump were gig workers and not good job. Obama wins again. These comparisons are from Obama's last three years to Trump's first three years. This year is a dumpster fire for Trump. So Cookie you are either a liar, missinformed, or dumb. Choose your label. Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,283 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 9 hours ago, Cooke (not admin cant help said: What's the barometer for this? The stock market? GDP? Wage growth? Job growth? If those are the metrics then Trump was better than Obama... 9 hours ago, lostfool said: You are such a twit. Under Obama unemployment dropped by 1.3 percentage points. Under Trump by just .7 percentage points. That's one for Obama (and remember Obama inherited "The Great Recession"). Trump inherited a booming job growth and economy. GDP growth Obama was at 2.4% and remember he inherited the great Recession and trump wast at 2.5%. Remember Trump inherited a booming economy. So you guess you can give that to your lover Trump. Deficit...... Hahahahahaabhaha. It balloned under Trump by 10 trillion dollars. Obama wins this by a landslide. S and P grew at a rate of 7.5% under Obama and 12.2% under Trump, but it was because he cut corporate taxes. So I guess Trump wins that. Expendable income dropped under Trump. 2.6% down to 2.3%. See Trump didn't cut taxes on those who actually needed it. Also a lot of the new jobs under trump were gig workers and not good job. Obama wins again. These comparisons are from Obama's last three years to Trump's first three years. This year is a dumpster fire for Trump. So Cookie you are either a liar, missinformed, or dumb. Choose your label. @Cooke (not admin cant help see what we mean when we say you parrot hallow right wing talking points? You just did it again. Trump and the right saying he did better than Obama when in fact he didn't.... but you repeating it as fact without you actually doing the research is the exact reason why the right targets low information people like yourself and why you constantly gravitate towards that shit. Link to post Share on other sites
Substatic 422 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Cooke (not admin cant help said: What's the barometer for this? The stock market? GDP? Wage growth? Job growth? If those are the metrics then Trump was better than Obama... 1. Several factors. This includes GDP and Jobs, yes. You trying to discount these 2 factors with a lie is not important. https://www.moodysanalytics.com/-/media/article/2020/the-macroeconomic-consequences-trump-vs-biden.pdf The Macroeconomic Consequences: Trump vs. Biden INTRODUCTION In this analysis we assess the macroeconomic consequences of the economic policies proposed by the presidential candidates. During their campaigns, President Trump and Vice President Biden have put forward a wide range of proposals to change the tax code, government spending, and other economic policies 2. Don't state falsehoods regarding your red-herring of Trump vs Obama in a false attempt to discount important economic factors. Trump's 4 year term economy was actually very bad compared to Obama's. Trump is one of the worst (if not the worst) Jobs president in History. This is a recorded fact. He will go down as having a very poor economy, and historians/economists won't and currently don't exclude 2020 because Breitbart cried about it. Democrat economies are better than GOP ones over the last few decades, relative to the decade. Likewise, Democrat run counties and states have much higher Human Development Index and Standard of Living. I guess China likes it when USA is better? Edited December 16, 2020 by Substatic Link to post Share on other sites
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