DF: Sources Claim Switch Successor Runs Matrix UE5 Tech Demo With Comparable Graphics to PS5/XSX

[Cooke 2,030]

4 minutes ago, Remij said:

The entire point of his response to you was that with Steam Deck, since it's a PC... it is entirely replaceable and upgradable... You KNOW that everything will work going forward.... Why the FUCK are you idiots acting like you don't know that.

 

3 different handheld PCs could release in a single Switch generation and each could be an upgrade for the user...  That's entirely the point.  With the Switch, you're stuck on that until they launch the next Switch...  With PC.. there's a constant flow of new devices to upgrade to.

The fact is Steamdeck lifespan will be much shorter than something like switch because it's in the PC ecosystem. That was my point.

[Remij 4,686]

13 minutes ago, jehurey said:

To the SAME OBJECT that you have in your possession.

 

Upgrade of..............THE OBJECT.

 

You're trying to (deceptively) say that YOU UPGRADED..............from one object to the next.

 

Go.............and.................read...............his..............post..............again..............sweetie.

 

He's talking about the object.

 

he's not talking about you.

 

You just lost the argument.

 

 

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How? You can't upgrade your Steamdeck. 

 

Sugarhigh never said a DAMN THING about upgrading the Deck... Cooke said this:

 

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The problem with the deck and other handheld PCs is they are part of the PC ecosystem which is constantly improving

And Sugarhigh said that was it's greatest strength... 

 

...and he said that BECAUSE IT CONTINUALLY IMPROVES WHILE CONSOLES STAND STILL.

 

Deck 2 will come, Ally 2 will come... and so on and so forth.. and each could be an upgrade that the user can choose to make if they want... because it ALL USES THE SAME ECOSYSTEMS.

[Remij 4,686]

1 minute ago, Cooke said:

The fact is Steamdeck lifespan will be much shorter than something like switch because it's in the PC ecosystem. That was my point.

No it won't.  What in gods name makes you think that.... Jesus christ  

 

People are gaming on PC with hardware from 15 years ago....  

 

You entire point is ass backwards.  The hardware is fixed... there's no upgrading your Switch until the next one drops.  On PC devices you can.

 

 

 

[jehurey 3,238]

2 minutes ago, Remij said:

 

 

 

Sugarhigh never said a DAMN THING about upgrading the Deck... Cooke said this:

 

 

 

 

You're entire claim was made FROM RESPONDING TO COOKE'S post.

 

BUSTED

 

You have completely lost this argument, and have gotten caught lying multiple times now.

[jehurey 3,238]

2 minutes ago, Remij said:

No it won't.  What in gods name makes you think that....

 

you just said that its looking outdated, and you're expecting another one soon.

 

"wut makes you THINK DAT?!?!?!?!"

 

.............after you already thunk it.

[Remij 4,686]

Just now, jehurey said:

 

 

You're entire claim was made FROM RESPONDING TO COOKE'S post.

 

BUSTED

 

You have completely lost this argument, and have gotten caught lying multiple times now.

Read again idiot.

 

Cooke said PC hardware continually improves

 

Sugarhigh said that's it's greatest strength...

 

Cooke (idiotically said) but you can't upgrade your Deck

 

except Sugarhigh never said anything about upgrading the deck itself... The greatest strenth of the PC ecosystem is you can  upgrade to something completely new, such as Deck 2 or Ally 2 or AyaNeo 3 or whatever... when you want.. as they release.

 

You've lost this argument fullstop Jerky.  There's nothing about Cooke's original post which says anything about not buying something new.... if that's the case then we could just say the Switch isn't upgradable either...and you have to buy a Switch 2...     

[Remij 4,686]

4 minutes ago, jehurey said:

you just said that its looking outdated, and you're expecting another one soon.

 

"wut makes you THINK DAT?!?!?!?!"

 

.............after you already thunk it.

I said it's outdated performance wise compared to newer devices....

 

... which actually COMPLETELY PROVES THE POINT WE ARE MAKING   

 

OMFG     

[Cooke 2,030]

7 minutes ago, Remij said:

No it won't.  What in gods name makes you think that.... Jesus christ  

 

People are gaming on PC with hardware from 15 years ago....  

 

You entire point is ass backwards.  The hardware is fixed... there's no upgrading your Switch until the next one drops.  On PC devices you can.

 

 

 

Because switch hardware is fixed it means developers cater to those specs. It's tens of millions of switches with identical hardware.  What aren't you understanding? The PC market is extremely fragmented, developers aren't making Steamdeck games, they are making PC games and for a PC its not very powerful and will fall behind quickly. 

[Remij 4,686]

6 minutes ago, Cooke said:

Because switch hardware is fixed it means developers cater to those specs. It's tens of millions of switches with identical hardware.  What aren't you understanding? The PC market is extremely fragmented, developers aren't making Steamdeck games, they are making PC games and for a PC its not very powerful and will fall behind quickly. 

I've already called you out for that stupid line of thinking... 

 

There's absolutely nothing to this "falling behind" theory you have..  PC hardware lasts just as long as console hardware.  What aren't you understanding about that?  VRAM requirements are the only thing which makes some GPUs perform less that expected relative to a console.

 

When I bought my 2080ti.. back in 2018.. that was 5 years ago  The 2080ti is still more powerful than PS5 and Series X......... and will be for the remainder of the generation....

Edited September 10, 2023 by Remij

[Playstation Tablet 1,729]

Who cares about the Steamdeck in a Switch 2 thread. That thing is ancient, there are numerous new handhelds coming and more will come.

[sugarhigh 519]

4 hours ago, Cooke said:

Do you think TOTK would look and run better in PS3? Or how about Xenoblade 3? Or MH Rise? Or even Bayo 3. Even Dark Souls is better in Switch 

 

 

Absolutely yes, the game runs at 10W.

[Cooke 2,030]

4 minutes ago, sugarhigh said:

Absolutely yes, the game runs at 10W.

You are delusional. 

 

This would be a blue tinged 15fps game with massive load times on PS3

 

 

Edited September 10, 2023 by Cooke

[Goukosan 2,258]

12 minutes ago, sugarhigh said:

Absolutely yes, the game runs at 10W.

 

 

With 512mb of ram? 

[-GD-X★ 7,755]

36 minutes ago, Goukosan said:

 

 

With 512mb of ram? 

I think he accidentally talked about the SD (since he said 10 watts) 

[jehurey 3,238]

3 hours ago, Remij said:

Your wife would definitely say that  

Thanks for admitting that you got caught lying and spinning words.

 

You trying to derail the argument to make fanfic about me isn't going to help you at this point.

[jehurey 3,238]

2 hours ago, Remij said:

Read again idiot.

 

Cooke said PC hardware continually improves

 

Sugarhigh said that's it's greatest strength...

 

Cooke (idiotically said) but you can't upgrade your Deck

 

except Sugarhigh never said anything about upgrading the deck itself...

And Cooke did........

 

.......and you responded to cooke.

 

By making a completely different point, therefore proving that Cooke's complaint about that handheld IS CORRECT.

2 hours ago, Remij said:

I said it's outdated performance wise compared to newer devices....

 

... which actually COMPLETELY PROVES THE POINT WE ARE MAKING   

 

OMFG     

That the hardware is not worth it, since no one ever developers FOR IT

 

............like developers will with a Switch 2.

 

I love how you think you pretend to not oversee the flaws that we are easily identifying

 

No one is developing for that Valve brand chinese handheld.........and when it struggles, you aren't going to see any more optimization, because they will simply release a new handheld.

 

And in two to three years that will be struggling as well. Because NOTHING is ever optimized, since developers will not care, or will not have the resources to optimize across multiple specs.

[jehurey 3,238]

1 hour ago, sugarhigh said:

Absolutely yes, the game runs at 10W.

You have decided to use a completely different metric that has absolutely no correlation to hardware power and efficiency.

 

You are intentionally trying to be deceiving, at this point.

 

Oh man, that Switch 2 has absolutely WRECKED YOUR SHIT, hard. Basically everything you had WISHED sheep would do against your valve-brand handheld............you're already doing it, harder, a year away from release

[Remij 4,686]

2 minutes ago, jehurey said:

And Cooke did........

 

.......and you responded to cooke.

 

By making a completely different point, therefore proving that Cooke's complaint about that handheld IS CORRECT.

That the hardware is not worth it, since no one ever developers FOR IT

 

............like developers will with a Switch 2.

 

I love how you think you pretend to not oversee the flaws that we are easily identifying

 

No one is developing for that Valve brand chinese handheld.........and when it struggles, you aren't going to see any more optimization, because they will simply release a new handheld.

 

And in two to three years that will be struggling as well. Because NOTHING is ever optimized, since developers will not care, or will not have the resources to optimize across multiple specs.

I love how you're actually trying to peddle console optimization being a replacement for the ability to entirely replace your PC/handheld hardware  

 

MY LORD! 

[jehurey 3,238]

Just now, Remij said:

I love how you're actually trying to peddle console optimization being a replacement for the ability to entirely replace

...........and he's now completely abandoned the word "upgrade"

 

thus completely admitting that he was lying about what the word meant

 

i love it when he thinks he can get me to argue new goalposts, when I immediately see that he just admitted to losing an argument

[jehurey 3,238]

developers not optimizing for the consumer.

 

Solution:

 

-Make the consumer buy more hardware, that has a shorter lifespan!!

 

Oh boy............wouldn't I love to go around boasting that I do that, and boasting about said hardware that is never optimized for, and doesn't have a long lifespan. Very proud to talk about such hardware. LOL