jehurey 3,299 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ramza said: Yeah and was dropped further with Reagonomics. Whatever. I'm saying the economic context is different, not that we're better off today. The world open market changes everything, it's a lot more competitive than it ever was in the 50s, high tax rates is not necessarily the answer to economic stability and growth. I'm not an economic expert so I'm not going to pretend I know what the best tax rates should be but I doubt it's some ludicrous, extremely high tax rates fueled by socialist utopia pipe dreamers. But you HELPING MAKE MY ARGUMENT, dumbass. See Reagonomics is based on this guy that helped Ronald Reagan get into office. Its called the Laffer Curve. And its logic is so stupid, They basically made a correlation based next-to-no real comprehensive information. It goes like this: "If we lower taxes, then business have more money to spend..............so they'll spend it on hiring more people, which will distribute more wealth, and MORE spending, and that will bring in MORE taxes, so the tax cuts PAID FOR THEMSELVES" You ever hear that final phrase "The tax cuts pay for themselves!!!!!!!!!!!"? They don't. The rich got richer at an increasing rate after 1980, and the middle-class wages stagnated. This is simply not up for debate: It is not trickling down..............and who premise behind giving tax cuts for rich people is that its supposed to BENEFIT the middle-class. Instead, we got you guys simply defending rich people for no apparent reason. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tears of the Cows 1,231 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, McWicked said: How much harder does Jeff Bezos work than you? Better question: why don't you just work harder to make the same money Jeff Bezos does? Why does it matter what Jeff bezos has? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,299 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 12 minutes ago, ghostz said: Why do you want people to pay more taxes than you? That's like saying.................why do I want people who own 90% of the land...........to pay 90% of the land taxes. Are you telling me you don't understand this????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McWicked 825 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ramza said: Norway doesn't have a %70 tax rates on the rich. lol Nobody does anymore. But they do tax higher than we do. Let me simplify this for you. I want you to look at the countries on this table and ask yourself if there's some sort of correlation between marginal tax rate and standard of living: https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/personal-income-tax-rate?continent=g20 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tears of the Cows 1,231 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, McWicked said: Nobody does anymore. But they do tax higher than we do. Let me simplify this for you. I want you to look at the countries on this table and ask yourself if there's some sort of correlation between marginal tax rate and standard of living: https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/personal-income-tax-rate?continent=g20 Norway smaller than US cities do you run amazon like the laundromat down the street? Edited January 30, 2019 by ghostz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. House 3,371 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Just now, McWicked said: How much harder does Jeff Bezos work than you? Better question: why don't you just work harder to make the same money Jeff Bezos does? Are you serious? I flip burgers... Bezos is running a multi billion worldwide empire. I can barely manage my own finances. What makes you think he's not entitled to his profits at a fair tax rates???????????? Why does working harder has to do with my tax rates? By the way I pay Canadian high tax rates already... So it's not the issue for me being at the bottom of the food chain. In case you haven't noticed, I'm not pursuing the American dream here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,698 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, ghostz said: Why does it matter what Jeff bezos has? You can see the lala land the alt left live in where they think being the CEO of one of the biggest companies in the world is in the same realm of work as being a cook at a diner. lmao, like what in the fuck is wrong with these idiots Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tears of the Cows 1,231 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Ramza said: Are you serious? I flip burgers... Bezos is running a multi billion worldwide empire. I can barely manage my own finances. What makes you think he's not entitled to his profits at a fair tax rates???????????? Why does working harder has to do with my tax rates? By the way I pay Canadian high tax rates already... So it's not the issue for me being at the bottom of the food chain. In case you haven't noticed, I'm not pursuing the American dream here. This is really gonna confuse mcbroke Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tears of the Cows 1,231 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Just now, Jon2B said: You can see the lala land the alt left live in where they think being the CEO of one of the biggest companies in the world is in the same realm of work as being a cook at a diner. lmao, like what in the fuck is wrong with these idiots It’s sad bro Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McWicked 825 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Just now, Ramza said: Are you serious? I flip burgers... Maybe just let this one go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. House 3,371 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, jehurey said: But you HELPING MAKE MY ARGUMENT, dumbass. See Reagonomics is based on this guy that helped Ronald Reagan get into office. Its called the Laffer Curve. And its logic is so stupid, They basically made a correlation based next-to-no real comprehensive information. It goes like this: "If we lower taxes, then business have more money to spend..............so they'll spend it on hiring more people, which will distribute more wealth, and MORE spending, and that will bring in MORE taxes, so the tax cuts PAID FOR THEMSELVES" You ever hear that final phrase "The tax cuts pay for themselves!!!!!!!!!!!"? They don't. The rich got richer at an increasing rate after 1980, and the middle-class wages stagnated. This is simply not up for debate: It is not trickling down..............and who premise behind giving tax cuts for rich people is that its supposed to BENEFIT the middle-class. Instead, we got you guys simply defending rich people for no apparent reason. I'm aware that the economic disparity has never been that high. That doesn't mean overtaxing couldn't be devastating to an economy and ended up having worst repercussion for the lower classes in the end. It's not that simple. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McWicked 825 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 The best part is Ramza's fucking Canadian. He don't worry about healthcare. He can likely get free tuition. Literally everything he's complaining about right now is being offered to him in Canada and he's too much of a dumb ass to realize it. Move down here. Flip burgers down here. You'll be begging to go back to Canada the first time you gotta go to the dentist. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,299 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, ghostz said: And there it is, proof of Jerry’s thinking in general lol what a loser mentality youll never win, because you don’t have the attitude to win. You get have a billion people all think just like you, but you’re all still losers, the winners will continue to win in life and y’all will continue to complain lol. Nothing to debate about really, I see your problem in life clear as day lol You lost, and are trying to find a way out. Are you saying I'm a loser because I'm taking into account how the rich bent the rules, and want to play the same way they did? "the attitude to win".........which Tony Robbins VHS cassette did you buy to learn that? The sad part is that people like and jonb know that you're not going to achieve anything...........so what you do is hope to drag others down. Its the only thing you guys have left. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,698 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, McWicked said: Maybe just let this one go. Tax the rich more, shit on people that don't have good enough jobs for you. No wonder everyone hates Lefties. You guys hate yourselves Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,698 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Just now, McWicked said: The best part is Ramza's fucking Canadian. He don't worry about healthcare. He can likely get free tuition. Literally everything he's complaining about right now is being offered to him in Canada and he's too much of a dumb ass to realize it. Move down here. Flip burgers down here. You'll be begging to go back to Canada the first time you gotta go to the dentist. Ask him how he feels about the Health Care in Canada. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McWicked 825 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Just now, Jon2B said: Tax the rich more, shit on people that don't have good enough jobs for you. No wonder everyone hates Lefties. You guys hate yourselves I'm in software development, son. I'm doing just fine. What are you in? I hope you're making 10 million a year or else you're gonna look like quite the bootlicker. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McWicked 825 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Jon2B said: Ask him how he feels about the Health Care in Canada. Burger flippers don't get health care in America. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,698 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Just now, McWicked said: I'm in software development, son. I'm doing just fine. What are you in? I hope you're making 10 million a year or else you're gonna look like quite the bootlicker. I never said anything about what you do. But if youre doing well maybe your taxes should be raised Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. House 3,371 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 minute ago, McWicked said: Maybe just let this one go. I'm not ashamed of having a job, working full time and not having to rely on any form of welfare. Plus I'm good at it, it's not an easy job and I'm proud of what I've achieved. Go back to your cubicle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,698 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Just now, McWicked said: Burger flippers don't get health care in America. Link? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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