Goukosan 2,258 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Remij_ said: Netflix fails at a lot of things. In many ways it IS a failure. But that's not what I said. I said Sony is dependent on others completely.. which is true. Even if they provide the best service.. they will always be dependent on others for it. What kinda DynamiteCop post is this? By your logic Apple is a failure too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,729 Posted June 3, 2019 Author Share Posted June 3, 2019 Sony not having it's own infrastructure or renting it, is absolutely irrelevant here. That doesn't mean anything for the service as a whole. Sony has the content, BUT I'm not sure they can compare with Google's marketability in streaming. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,686 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Goukosan said: What kinda DynamiteCop post is this? By your logic Apple is a failure too I never said they were a failure... Lynux did. I said in many ways they have failed.. Completely different. If you're too stupid to understand that it's not my fault Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,729 Posted June 3, 2019 Author Share Posted June 3, 2019 Sony said PSNOW has 700K users, they expect 50% growth rate at best per year. So assuming they hit 400K growth per year, that's only 4 million in the next decade. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,087 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, lynux3 said: Heard it here first folks. Netflix is a failure. Netflix is splitting at the seams and falling apart. Edited June 3, 2019 by DynamiteCop! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,107 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 minute ago, DynamiteCop! said: Netflix is splitting at the seams and falling apart. Can't tell if serious. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,729 Posted June 3, 2019 Author Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 minute ago, lynux3 said: Can't tell if serious. It was losing money for 10+ years from what I read. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,107 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Team 2019 said: Sony said PSNOW has 700K users, they expect 50% growth rate at best per year. So assuming they hit 400K growth per year, that's only 4 million in the next decade. You need to redo your math there, bud. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,107 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Just now, Team 2019 said: It was losing money for 10+ years from what I read. So was/is Amazon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,087 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 minute ago, lynux3 said: Can't tell if serious. Everyone is splitting off, starting their own shit. When Disney leaves it's going to be a mess, they own like half of the properties on the service. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,729 Posted June 3, 2019 Author Share Posted June 3, 2019 The issue with PSNow vs Stadia, is that it's easy to explain to a PS4/PS5 owner why they should choose PSNOW. To the person that owns NO hardware, it's very hard to explain why he should choose PSNow over Stadia. That's an issue MS is going to hit big time as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,729 Posted June 3, 2019 Author Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 minute ago, lynux3 said: You need to redo your math there, bud. I don't need to redo my math, because their geometric projection growth rate is delusional. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,107 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Just now, DynamiteCop! said: Everyone is splitting off, starting their own shit. When Disney leaves it's going to be a mess, they own like half of the properties on the service. That's a big loss for sure, but it's not enough to kill off Netflix. Eventually the video streaming bubble could pop if it splits off anymore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,087 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Just now, lynux3 said: That's a big loss for sure, but it's not enough to kill off Netflix. Eventually the video streaming bubble could pop if it splits off anymore. Comcast owns a huge share of what will be left, they're going to pull the plug as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,107 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Team 2019 said: I don't need to redo my math, because their geometric projection growth rate is delusional. I agree that the projection is wishful thinking, but Sony's team has to paint a pretty picture. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,729 Posted June 3, 2019 Author Share Posted June 3, 2019 You know Sony, MS and Google are really dividing the skin of an unkilled bear here. First they all have to first confirm a huge market for streaming even exists, before they even get to the "streaming wars". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,686 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Team 2019 said: The issue with PSNow vs Stadia, is that it's easy to explain to a PS4/PS5 owner why they should choose PSNOW. To the person that owns NO hardware, it's very hard to explain why he should choose PSNow over Stadia. That's an issue MS is going to hit big time as well. Not really. Sony has IP... That's always been their strength. The ability for PS owners to tell their friends that don't game that they could try some games on PS Now before buying a system or whatever can't be understated. Especially when PSNow would allow those users to play with their friends. It completely depends on what they are offering and at what price point though. Even people who don't really game that much know of Sony games and IPs.. This is also why Sony is probably branching out with their Playstation Movie production studio and shit like that.. in an attempt to advertise their games and IP in a way. Stadia on the other hand will have to build up a stable of games and new IP.. Assuming the service is actually good, reliable, and with the youtube factor, that's huge, and they could come up swiftly... but they have their work ahead of them as well. They need to have games which people want to play.. so I expect them to gobble up some mid tier developers, and possibly snag some exclusives from the console side which nobody is expecting. I heard Baldur's Gate 3 will be one of those games. (also available on PC though) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,258 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 21 minutes ago, Remij_ said: I never said they were a failure... Lynux did. I said in many ways they have failed.. Completely different. If you're too stupid to understand that it's not my fault 27 minutes ago, Remij_ said: Netflix fails at a lot of things. In many ways it IS a failure. But that's not what I said. I said Sony is dependent on others completely.. which is true. Even if they provide the best service.. they will always be dependent on others for it. Apple is dependent on other companies and were the first trillion dollar companies. Remij - "In many ways they're a failure" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,686 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Goukosan said: Apple is dependent on other companies and were the first trillion dollar companies. Remij - "In many ways they're a failure" Did I say something that wasn't true? Did I say Netflix failed? Did I say Apple failed? I never said Sony depending on other companies makes would them a failure... In fact... I never said ANY of these companies was a failure. I can't tell if you're just stupid and misunderstood, or are purposefully being stupid just to argue... Oh wait.. I can tell. You've been doing the same acting like a bitch for a while now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,087 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Goukosan said: Apple is dependent on other companies and were the first trillion dollar companies. Remij - "In many ways they're a failure" Every company is dependent to a degree but it's fiscally impossible for Sony to develop their own infrastructure. They're a relatively poor company, it's out of their pay grade. They are 100% reliant on others, if no one did business with them they would die. They have no network, they have a service on someone elses. Edited June 3, 2019 by DynamiteCop! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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