MIchael Moore, who predicted Trump would win in 2016 is now shitting himself because he thinks Trump is on track to win again

[Remij 4,712]

5 minutes ago, GeorgeW1000 said:

I was going to like this until I saw “the change needed... lol” 

You guys have a lot of issues... you don't think some change is needed?

[GeorgeW1000 118]

Just now, Remij said:

You guys have a lot of issues... you don't think some change is needed?

Our problems come from the media and the elite not believing in the country anymore. They want to make it something else. 

[ChupacabraIII 135]

16 minutes ago, GeorgeW1000 said:

Our problems come from the media and the elite not believing in the country anymore. They want to make it something else. 

You don't even know what rape is, shut the fuck up.

[GeorgeW1000 118]

1 minute ago, ChupacabraIII said:

You don't even know what rape is, shut the fuck up.

ChupacobblerIII... you're a lot more angry now than we were when we were young, lol 

[Mr. Impossible 424]

1 hour ago, Twinblade said:

It makes a difference. Its why the CHOP zone in seattle was technically the most violent place in the country even though there were only 2 shootings. The amount of crime in relation to the number of people should be the best indicator of how violent an area is.

This makes absolutely no sense lol. Nothing you have said about this makes any sense. Even if "hundreds of thousands" of people left a city of 10 million, that wouldn't adversely affect the numbers he is talking about.

 

I'm starting to come around that I was probably wrong about this subforum serving a purpose. There's way too much magical thinking, lies, and uninformed people here for any constructive discourse about politics tbh. 

[GeorgeW1000 118]

Also, Michael Moore’s movie “planet of the humans, or whatever, sounds awesome... at least a little bit. We need more stuff making fun of the obviously fake global warming thing. Lol.

[Hot Sauce 2,742]

31 minutes ago, Twinblade said:

It makes a difference. Its why the CHOP zone in seattle was technically the most violent place in the country even though there were only 2 shootings. The amount of crime in relation to the number of people should be the best indicator of how violent an area is.

Sure, but you're talking hundreds of thousands in a city of 8.4 million. If 400,000 left it would be a 5% decrease. Does that shift the total major crimes per capita? Of course, but not far enough for your sensationalism to be accurate.

 

I thought maybe year to date doesn't tell us the whole picture. The cuts to the NYPD are recent, so perhaps the earlier part of the year is hiding a recent increase in crime rate.

 

In July of 2019 there were 9,082 major crimes. With a population of 8,400,000, that's 108 per 100,000 people.

In July of 2020 there were 8,519 major crimes. With a population of 8,000,000, that's 106 per 100,000 people.

 

In June of 2019 there were 8,297 major crimes. With a population of 8,400,000, that's 99 per 100,000 people.

In June of 2020 there were 7,839 major crimes. With a population of 8,000,000, that's 98 per 100,000 people.

 

But okay, maybe 2019 was just a bad year and 2020 only looks good comparatively.

 

Total major crimes in 2019 - 95,606

Total major crimes in 2018 - 95,883

Total major crimes in 2017 - 96,658

Total major crimes in 2016 - 101,716

Total major crimes in 2015 - 105,453

Total major crimes in 2014 - 106,722

Total major crimes in 2013 - 111,335

 

Turns out 2019 had the lowest number of major crimes in the last 20 years of historical data on the NYPD website.

 

Fine, whatever, I saw The Wire. You juke the stats and turn larger crimes into smaller ones. I bet we'll see an increase in the amount of non-major felony offenses.

 

Total non-major felonies in 2019 - 51,484

Total non-major felonies in 2018 - 52,667

Total non-major felonies in 2017 - 54,907

Total non-major felonies in 2016 - 58,346

Total non-major felonies in 2015 - 56,520

Total non-major felonies in 2014 - 56,869

Total non-major felonies in 2013 - 57,650

 

Turns out 2019 also had the lowest number of non-major felonies in the last 20 years of historical data on the NYPD website. Uh, misdemeanours?

 

Total misdemeanours in 2019 - 256,038

Total misdemeanours in 2018 - 271,630

Total misdemeanours in 2017 - 300,354

Total misdemeanours in 2016 - 314,925

Total misdemeanours in 2015 - 322,848

Total misdemeanours in 2014 - 348,371

Total misdemeanours in 2013 - 359,350

 

Well, fuck.

 

There is one last grouping of offenses: violation offenses. It consists of disorderly conduct, marijuana possession, and trespass. I don't have much hope, but for the sake of due diligence let's just give it a shot.

 

Total violation offenses in 2019 - 73,477

Total violation offenses in 2018 - 71,521

Total violation offenses in 2017 - 68,054

Total violation offenses in 2016 - 67,599

Total violation offenses in 2015 - 64,334

Total violation offenses in 2014 - 65,097

Total violation offenses in 2013 - 61,037

 

Holy shit. We fucking did it. We found a category of crime where 2019 isn't a record low that hasn't been seen in decades. And look at that, it's increased every single year since de Blasio entered office in 2014. What an absolutely horrible mayor LMAO.

 

[jehurey 3,298]

2 hours ago, Remij said:

You guys have a lot of issues... you don't think some change is needed?

You are seeing, first-hand, that "one side" clearly does not want to fix things that are fundamental and systemic problems in the United States.

 

And the reason why they don't is because "it hurts the people they want to hurt" and even if its incredibly flawed, they will maintain the status quo.

 

I mean think about this for a second........I am trying to talk to ghost about BLM forcing police reforms to help greatly decrease police killing people.

 

And his response is "well, technically white people get killed more by police"

 

Like its not registering in his head..............if BLM gets these changes done, ALL police shootings decrease, which means it also helps white people from getting shot by police, as well.

 

But.......that thought never crosses his mind for a second.

 

because he knows that blacks are disproportionately killed..........."it hurts the people HE WANTS it to hurt"..........therefore ghost is okay with the status quo.

 

This isn't the first time in American history that there are people who think like this. In the Civil War, poor white farmers fought for rich plantation owners in the South.  The rich plantation owners and their cheap slave labor is what MADE poor white southerners poor in the first place. So why did poor white southerners fight to protect the interests of rich plantation owners?

 

Because as shitty as the status quo was for them.......at least black people would be lower than them on the ladder. It really is that simple. And yes, there really are people like that, out there.

Edited August 31, 2020 by jehurey

[Goukosan 2,283]

7 hours ago, Hot Sauce said:

Sure, but you're talking hundreds of thousands in a city of 8.4 million. If 400,000 left it would be a 5% decrease. Does that shift the total major crimes per capita? Of course, but not far enough for your sensationalism to be accurate.

 

I thought maybe year to date doesn't tell us the whole picture. The cuts to the NYPD are recent, so perhaps the earlier part of the year is hiding a recent increase in crime rate.

 

In July of 2019 there were 9,082 major crimes. With a population of 8,400,000, that's 108 per 100,000 people.

In July of 2020 there were 8,519 major crimes. With a population of 8,000,000, that's 106 per 100,000 people.

 

In June of 2019 there were 8,297 major crimes. With a population of 8,400,000, that's 99 per 100,000 people.

In June of 2020 there were 7,839 major crimes. With a population of 8,000,000, that's 98 per 100,000 people.

 

But okay, maybe 2019 was just a bad year and 2020 only looks good comparatively.

 

Total major crimes in 2019 - 95,606

Total major crimes in 2018 - 95,883

Total major crimes in 2017 - 96,658

Total major crimes in 2016 - 101,716

Total major crimes in 2015 - 105,453

Total major crimes in 2014 - 106,722

Total major crimes in 2013 - 111,335

 

Turns out 2019 had the lowest number of major crimes in the last 20 years of historical data on the NYPD website.

 

Fine, whatever, I saw The Wire. You juke the stats and turn larger crimes into smaller ones. I bet we'll see an increase in the amount of non-major felony offenses.

 

Total non-major felonies in 2019 - 51,484

Total non-major felonies in 2018 - 52,667

Total non-major felonies in 2017 - 54,907

Total non-major felonies in 2016 - 58,346

Total non-major felonies in 2015 - 56,520

Total non-major felonies in 2014 - 56,869

Total non-major felonies in 2013 - 57,650

 

Turns out 2019 also had the lowest number of non-major felonies in the last 20 years of historical data on the NYPD website. Uh, misdemeanours?

 

Total misdemeanours in 2019 - 256,038

Total misdemeanours in 2018 - 271,630

Total misdemeanours in 2017 - 300,354

Total misdemeanours in 2016 - 314,925

Total misdemeanours in 2015 - 322,848

Total misdemeanours in 2014 - 348,371

Total misdemeanours in 2013 - 359,350

 

Well, fuck.

 

There is one last grouping of offenses: violation offenses. It consists of disorderly conduct, marijuana possession, and trespass. I don't have much hope, but for the sake of due diligence let's just give it a shot.

 

Total violation offenses in 2019 - 73,477

Total violation offenses in 2018 - 71,521

Total violation offenses in 2017 - 68,054

Total violation offenses in 2016 - 67,599

Total violation offenses in 2015 - 64,334

Total violation offenses in 2014 - 65,097

Total violation offenses in 2013 - 61,037

 

Holy shit. We fucking did it. We found a category of crime where 2019 isn't a record low that hasn't been seen in decades. And look at that, it's increased every single year since de Blasio entered office in 2014. What an absolutely horrible mayor LMAO.

 

Jesus Christ @Twinblade, why do you constantly post stuff without facts (thought that was against the rules on this board)..

 

and when the facts show up.... you disappear into thin air 

[Tears of the Cows 1,225]

7 hours ago, Hot Sauce said:

Sure, but you're talking hundreds of thousands in a city of 8.4 million. If 400,000 left it would be a 5% decrease. Does that shift the total major crimes per capita? Of course, but not far enough for your sensationalism to be accurate.

 

I thought maybe year to date doesn't tell us the whole picture. The cuts to the NYPD are recent, so perhaps the earlier part of the year is hiding a recent increase in crime rate.

 

In July of 2019 there were 9,082 major crimes. With a population of 8,400,000, that's 108 per 100,000 people.

In July of 2020 there were 8,519 major crimes. With a population of 8,000,000, that's 106 per 100,000 people.

 

In June of 2019 there were 8,297 major crimes. With a population of 8,400,000, that's 99 per 100,000 people.

In June of 2020 there were 7,839 major crimes. With a population of 8,000,000, that's 98 per 100,000 people.

 

But okay, maybe 2019 was just a bad year and 2020 only looks good comparatively.

 

Total major crimes in 2019 - 95,606

Total major crimes in 2018 - 95,883

Total major crimes in 2017 - 96,658

Total major crimes in 2016 - 101,716

Total major crimes in 2015 - 105,453

Total major crimes in 2014 - 106,722

Total major crimes in 2013 - 111,335

 

Turns out 2019 had the lowest number of major crimes in the last 20 years of historical data on the NYPD website.

 

Fine, whatever, I saw The Wire. You juke the stats and turn larger crimes into smaller ones. I bet we'll see an increase in the amount of non-major felony offenses.

 

Total non-major felonies in 2019 - 51,484

Total non-major felonies in 2018 - 52,667

Total non-major felonies in 2017 - 54,907

Total non-major felonies in 2016 - 58,346

Total non-major felonies in 2015 - 56,520

Total non-major felonies in 2014 - 56,869

Total non-major felonies in 2013 - 57,650

 

Turns out 2019 also had the lowest number of non-major felonies in the last 20 years of historical data on the NYPD website. Uh, misdemeanours?

 

Total misdemeanours in 2019 - 256,038

Total misdemeanours in 2018 - 271,630

Total misdemeanours in 2017 - 300,354

Total misdemeanours in 2016 - 314,925

Total misdemeanours in 2015 - 322,848

Total misdemeanours in 2014 - 348,371

Total misdemeanours in 2013 - 359,350

 

Well, fuck.

 

There is one last grouping of offenses: violation offenses. It consists of disorderly conduct, marijuana possession, and trespass. I don't have much hope, but for the sake of due diligence let's just give it a shot.

 

Total violation offenses in 2019 - 73,477

Total violation offenses in 2018 - 71,521

Total violation offenses in 2017 - 68,054

Total violation offenses in 2016 - 67,599

Total violation offenses in 2015 - 64,334

Total violation offenses in 2014 - 65,097

Total violation offenses in 2013 - 61,037

 

Holy shit. We fucking did it. We found a category of crime where 2019 isn't a record low that hasn't been seen in decades. And look at that, it's increased every single year since de Blasio entered office in 2014. What an absolutely horrible mayor LMAO.

 

But I thought it was complete anarchy with trump in office. Are you telling me the economy went up, and crime went down, while trump was in office?

[Hot Sauce 2,742]

18 minutes ago, ghostz life matters said:

But I thought it was complete anarchy with trump in office. Are you telling me the economy went up, and crime went down, while trump was in office?

You tried.

[Tears of the Cows 1,225]

16 minutes ago, Hot Sauce said:

You tried.

And succeeded, clearly, from your lack of a response. Lol. 

[Hot Sauce 2,742]

1 minute ago, ghostz life matters said:

And succeeded, clearly, from your lack of a response. Lol. 

0/2.

[Tears of the Cows 1,225]

1 minute ago, Hot Sauce said:

0/2.

No, 3/3 now. Your own stats just proved that crime went down with trump in office. 

[Hot Sauce 2,742]

4 minutes ago, ghostz life matters said:

No, 3/3 now. Your own stats just proved that crime went down with trump in office. 

0/3.

[Tears of the Cows 1,225]

3 minutes ago, Hot Sauce said:

0/3.

Holy shit, he’s melting the fuck down

 

he just got tricked by Twinblade into admitting Trump has caused crime to decrease, and now he has no where to go. 

Edited August 31, 2020 by ghostz life matters

[Hot Sauce 2,742]

2 minutes ago, ghostz life matters said:

Holy shit, he’s melting the fuck down

 

he just got tricked by Twinblade into admitting Trump has caused crime to decrease, and now he has no where to go. 

0/4.

[Mr. Impossible 424]

1 hour ago, Hot Sauce said:

You tried.

and failed. 

[Mr. Impossible 424]

10 hours ago, GeorgeW1000 said:

Also, Michael Moore’s movie “planet of the humans, or whatever, sounds awesome... at least a little bit. We need more stuff making fun of the obviously fake global warming thing. Lol.

lol fuck the environment

Edited August 31, 2020 by Liquid

[Tears of the Cows 1,225]

1 hour ago, Hot Sauce said:

0/4.

 

8 minutes ago, Liquid said:

and failed. 

Looks like I demolished you both. No response

 

i can’t believe hot sauce got tricked so badly