Ike★ 2,908 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 29 minutes ago, jehurey said: Notice how when somebody is doing something terrible, and it makes conservatives look bad, the right-wingers don't really get around to condemning it and separating themselves from it. They actually get MADDER and want to talk more shit about Democrats, because in their mind, the Democrats will "take advantage of it." Strawman arguing tactics. That and whataboutisms is all they have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McWicked 825 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, -GD- said: Trumpets: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McWicked 825 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Just now, Ike said: Strawman arguing tactics. That and whataboutisms is all they have. Mostly because whataboutery is a legitimate Russian Propaganda technique: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism Quote Whataboutism (also known as whataboutery) is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument,[1][2][3] which in the United States is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,230 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Oh............let's cut off the right-wingers upcoming excuse, right now. He's white. He 's not hispanic, He's not Native American. He identifies himself as white. How do we know this? We can pull up his voter registration record: Person Location Voter Details Cesar A Sayoc Jr Age: 56Gender: MaleRace: White, Non Hispanic Residential Address:Aventura Fl 33160Mailing Address:Miramar Fl 33023 Party Affiliation: Republican PartyRegistered to Vote In: Dade County, FLVoter Status: Active Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alphonse★ 453 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Instead of coming up with conspiracy conservatives should be denouncing this guy, but that ain’t going to happen. They’re still coming up with excuses at site like voat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McWicked 825 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 18 minutes ago, jehurey said: Oh............let's cut off the right-wingers upcoming excuse, right now. He's white. He 's not hispanic, He's not Native American. He identifies himself as white. How do we know this? We can pull up his voter registration record: Person Location Voter Details Cesar A Sayoc Jr Age: 56Gender: MaleRace: White, Non Hispanic Residential Address:Aventura Fl 33160Mailing Address:Miramar Fl 33023 Party Affiliation: Republican PartyRegistered to Vote In: Dade County, FLVoter Status: Active Deep State™ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roflpwnedz 289 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 So much talk about Florida but ignoring he's originally from New York Can't stand New Yorkers down here. Always talking about how everything is so much better up there, but they moved down here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McWicked 825 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 There's the whataboutism we've been waiting for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Teh_Diplomat 2,054 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 38 minutes ago, -GD- said: Deeno's previous signature in the bottom-right 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,230 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Teh_Laundromat said: Deeno's previous signature in the bottom-right he's part of the same group of extremist wingnuts oh by the way, here's another closeup, and it looks like that guy went out of his way to make a personalized message. It specifically refers to Donald Trump supporting his ideas. Why would you look at that. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,230 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 He's been taking photos with Republicans running for election Time for campaign people to go through his social media pictures. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-GD-X★ 7,733 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 lmfao!!! this is hilarious! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roflpwnedz 289 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Looking at all the comments on social media, it seems that the liberals are just as bad as the conservatives when it comes to this guy's race. "Buh buh white male domestic terrorist ;(" "He looks hispanic" "No, he's native and filipino" They're pretty much all wrong one way or the other. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Teh_Diplomat 2,054 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 No clear link has been established that the suspect has any specific political leanings Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,230 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 1 minute ago, roflpwnedz said: Looking at all the comments on social media, it seems that the liberals are just as bad as the conservatives when it comes to this guy's race. "Buh buh white male domestic terrorist ;(" "He looks hispanic" "No, he's native and filipino" They're pretty much all wrong one way or the other. lol, nope. nice try. guess you should've bothered to read further up this webpage: 45 minutes ago, jehurey said: Oh............let's cut off the right-wingers upcoming excuse, right now. He's white. He 's not hispanic, He's not Native American. He identifies himself as white. How do we know this? We can pull up his voter registration record: Person Location Voter Details Cesar A Sayoc Jr Age: 56Gender: MaleRace: White, Non Hispanic Residential Address:Aventura Fl 33160Mailing Address:Miramar Fl 33023 Party Affiliation: Republican PartyRegistered to Vote In: Dade County, FLVoter Status: Active 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bhytre 2,753 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Just now, jehurey said: lol, nope. nice try. guess you should've bothered to read further up this webpage: Can't blame anyone for skipping your posts Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roflpwnedz 289 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Just now, jehurey said: lol, nope. nice try. guess you should've bothered to read further up this webpage: I was clearly addressing that post. I guess by that logic Caitlin is a woman right? And Elizabeth Warren is Native American? But science! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,230 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Just now, bhytre said: Can't blame anyone for skipping your posts You're right........I can't blame it on their butthurt. Just now, roflpwnedz said: I was clearly addressing that post. I guess by that logic Caitlin is a woman right? And Elizabeth Warren is Native American? But science! Set Whataboutism to: Trannys and Elizabeth Warren FIRE! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ike★ 2,908 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Race isn’t irrelevant. He’s a radical right-wing terrorist. That’s all that needs to be said. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,230 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 The best thing for right-wingers to do is to go out of their way to emphasize that he is an extraordinary outlier of their base. He is not normal like the rest. But what do normal people say? Quote A Tampa resident who said he encountered Sayoc in a hotel parking lot in Miami last May told HuffPost that the suspect was quirky — given the stickers on his van — but didn’t seem “violent” during their hourlong conversation. “He wasn’t talking violent or anything like that but basically talked about fake news, Obama, Hillary Clinton, stuff like that. He said his family didn’t agree with him, that he only associated with other Trump supporters,” said the man, who asked to be identified only by his first name, Korey. When Korey, a 40-year-old black Trump supporter, saw the van on TV Friday morning, he immediately identified it as Sayoc’s. Korey said he couldn’t believe the “regular Republican” he had spoken to was the bomb suspect. “It was crazy, man. He never said nothing verbally hateful. He didn’t say, ‘I wanna kill Obama.’ He railed against him but never threatened,” Korey said. Korey said he was one of those who initially believed the bombs being sent to top Democrats were a false flag operation perpetrated by the left, as Trump implied Friday morning. "I was thinking it too. I thought it was someone doing this to send a message to scare people. Maybe a Democrat,” he said. “Finding out that this guy did it — it was kinda like, I can see him doing it, just due to how much support or how passionate he was about the news media and Hillary Clinton. I put two and two together, and now I’m like, wow, he really was crazy.” Painting him as a "regular" Republican is even more damning. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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