Cooke 2,041 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 38 minutes ago, jehurey said: The police can do something with their hands besides wield a gun. You have absolutely no answers for real life. Obviously they can, but some don't. Why risk it? I wouldnt. Link to post Share on other sites
Cooke 2,041 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 41 minutes ago, jehurey said: No. THat's not acceptable. We as a society can and SHOULD change cops, if that is the case. If cops cannot find a way to handle this, they should be defunded and have that money directed to other specialists who are trained with other skills to handle this. You do not simply say "welp............this is a glaring flaw...........the rest of society must find a way around to operate with this flaw in the machine" That's bullshit. That isn't an answer. Never said it was acceptable. But it is what it is. Your police are idiots, why tempt fate when you don't have to? This is in no way putting blame on the person who got shot. There are just better choices in a situation like that. If it were you what would you have done? Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,299 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Cooke (not admin cant help said: Obviously they can, but some don't. Why risk it? I wouldnt. That's not how this works. The police is something we can specify down to SPECIFIC PROTOCOLS. Not the random people on the street. You are looking at this completely wrong. That's like saying why bother engineering better automobiles and traffic laws, just wear more padded clothing to increase your chances of surviving, and choose to drive at certain hours of the day where there's less traffic. That's just stupid. People who think like that shouldn't be in charge of anything. Edited August 24, 2020 by jehurey Link to post Share on other sites
Teh_Diplomat 2,054 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Cooke (not admin cant help said: Obviously they can, but some don't. Why risk it? I wouldnt. The suspension of logic while you request the NBA to apply pressure on the Chinese (Authoritarian) Government, but simultaneously advise people to acquiesce to the demands of police - regardless if they're right; is amazing. Keep up the good work. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,299 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Just now, Cooke (not admin cant help said: Never said it was acceptable. But it is what it is. No it isn't "what it is" It can be changed. It will be changed. But not from people like you. Link to post Share on other sites
Cooke 2,041 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Just now, jehurey said: That's not how this works. The police is something we can specify down to SPECIFIC PROTOCOLS. Not the random people on the street. You are looking at this completely wrong. That's like saying why bother engineering better automobiles, just wear more padded clothing to increase your chances of surviving, and choose to drive at certain hours of the day where there's less traffic. That's just stupid. People who think like that shouldn't be in charge of anything. That's how it worked though..if you ignore police and attempt to flee, they are going to try and stop you, some of them may shoot you. We've seen it time and time again. So again, what would you have done? Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,299 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Just now, Teh_Diplomat said: The suspension of logic while you request the NBA to apply pressure on the Chinese (Authoritarian) Government, but simultaneously advise people to acquiesce to the demands of police - regardless if they're right; is amazing. Keep up the good work. fucking slaughtered Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,299 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Just now, Cooke (not admin cant help said: That's how it worked though..if you ignore police and attempt to flee, they are going to try and stop you, some of them may shoot you. We've seen it time and time again. So again, what would you have done? Nope. We have specific laws for evading police. NONE of them come with a death sentence. NONE OF THEM. Link to post Share on other sites
Cooke 2,041 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Just now, Teh_Diplomat said: The suspension of logic while you request the NBA to apply pressure on the Chinese (Authoritarian) Government, but simultaneously advise people to acquiesce to the demands of police - regardless if they're right; is amazing. Keep up the good work. What would you have done? Knowing what we know about Americans cops, what would you have diplo? Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,299 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Cooke (not admin cant help said: What would you have done? Knowing what we know about Americans cops, what would you have diplo? Grabbed him, put him up against the car. Use these things called HANDCUFFS..................they cuff the hands, y'know. Link to post Share on other sites
Cooke 2,041 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, jehurey said: Nope. We have specific laws for evading police. NONE of them come with a death sentence. NONE OF THEM. It doesn't fucking matter what the law is. YOUR COPS ARE ASSHOLES REGARDLESS!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,299 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Just now, Cooke (not admin cant help said: It doesn't fucking matter what the law is. YOUR COPS ARE ASSHOLES REGARDLESS!!!!!! you're right............they need to be prosecuted and fired until they learn their lesson, or they learn that they need to quit because they can't do it anymore. Link to post Share on other sites
Cooke 2,041 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, jehurey said: Grabbed him, put him up against the car. Use these things called HANDCUFFS..................they cuff the hands, y'know. I know what they should have done dipshit. Holy fuck Edited August 24, 2020 by Cooke (not admin cant help Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,299 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Just now, Cooke (not admin cant help said: I know what they should have done dogshit. Holy fuck Then why are you pretending to play stupid? Link to post Share on other sites
Cooke 2,041 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, jehurey said: Then why are you pretending to play stupid? Oh my god Link to post Share on other sites
Cooke 2,041 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 I'll try this one last time. Knowing what we do about police behavior and brutally, why would anyone purposefully tempt fate? We know they have a shoot first mentality. I would rather be arrested wrongfully than shot in the back. Yes everything they did was wrong and criminal, that doesn't change the outcome. Link to post Share on other sites
Tears of the Cows 1,237 Posted August 24, 2020 Author Share Posted August 24, 2020 17 minutes ago, Chicano3000 said: What in the fuck?!. Why didn't he just put his gun away? What's the point in not backing off and apprehending later, especially when we know the guy was just trying to get in his car? Really everyone knows this makes American police look brutal and evil who would will fucking shoot you if you don't do what they say. Why risk it getting yourself into this situation as a cop? I don't get it... Link to post Share on other sites
Twinblade★ 3,991 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 4 hours ago, Goukosan said: There are these things called tasers... ever head of them? Except tasers aren't fool proof....why would a cop risk his life using one if there's any chance he could be confronted with a lethal weapon? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Teh_Diplomat 2,054 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Twinblade said: Except tasers aren't fool proof....why would a cop risk his life using one if there's any chance he could be confronted with a lethal weapon? I'm gonna need you to point out the timestamp for when one of the officers involved has their life at risk. Link to post Share on other sites
Twinblade★ 3,991 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 10 minutes ago, Teh_Diplomat said: I'm gonna need you to point out the timestamp for when one of the officers involved has their life at risk. Are you serious? Someone who is aggressively disobeying the police suddenly opens their car door and then REACHES down towards the car door pocket/under the seat, places where someone could easily store a handgun. What else is the nearest officer supposed to do? He has a split second to make a decision, and he's not going to just sit back and politely allow someone to potentially grab a lethal weapon and use it on them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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