The Jacob Blake shooting was justified.

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1 minute ago, jehurey said:

Look at how he just ran away from the main subject, and tried to bash blacks to make himself feel better.

 

The 2.8x times more was more than white people based on their population.

 

Not 2.8x more crime.

 

Notice how you AVOID TALKING ABOUT PROPORTION when it comes to police brutiality, but you immediately understand the concept when you (think) it benefits you.

 

In that crime numbers, white people also commit MORE CRIMES than their percentage as a population.

No, let’s talk proportion. Black people account for 50% of the murders in USA. 

 

And yet, white people are STILL killed more by police.

 

 

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Just now, Twinblade said:

America is a different country with a different culture.

No.................that's a stupid, almost amateurish excuse.

 

Their COPS.

 

THEIR REGULATED.

 

WE CREATE THE REGULATIONS.

 

It has nothing to do with "culture"

 

3 minutes ago, Twinblade said:

 

 

But if you really want to play that game....you do realize that FAR more police are likely to be killed in America than in other countries right???? You can't just completely ignore the other side of the argument....

 

Lets take Canada for example

 

 

 

 

So theres 1.8 officers a year killed in Canada vs an average of 52 in the year in the U.S.....yet you're somehow surprised that American police feel more threatened and are more likely to shoot & kill? really??  

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/4-decades-of-canadian-police-homicides-by-the-numbers-1.4781581

 

You lose dude....just quit while you can.

 

 

 

 

There has been 215 Mexican police officers killed by the end of May 2020. On track for 500 officers dying in the line of duty.

 

You can't possibly be this uninformed.

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3 minutes ago, ghostz life matters said:

No, let’s talk proportion. Black people account for 50% of the murders in USA. 

 

And yet, white people are STILL killed more by police.

 

 

Let's talk proportion.

 

Black people are 2.8 more times getting shot by police than a white person.

 

ALMOST THREE TIMES higher chance of getting shot by police than a white person.

 

Do you acknowledge that? Yes or No???????

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White people commit a crime 0.028% of the time

Black people commit a crime 0.065% of the time

 

2.3x difference. Again, close to Jerry’s 2.8 number. 
 

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2 minutes ago, jehurey said:

No.................that's a stupid, almost amateurish excuse.

 

Their COPS.

 

THEIR REGULATED.

 

WE CREATE THE REGULATIONS.

 

It has nothing to do with "culture"

 

There has been 215 Mexican police officers killed by the end of May 2020. On track for 500 officers dying in the line of duty.

 

You can't possibly be this uninformed.

Mexico wasn’t on your list  

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1 minute ago, ghostz life matters said:

White people commit a crime 0.028% of the time

Black people commit a crime 0.065% of the time

 

2.3x difference. Again, close to Jerry’s 2.8 number. 
 

Nope

 

 

Why are you lying? About that?

 

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Just now, jehurey said:

Nope

 

 

Why are you lying? About that?

 

Do the math. 250 million whites, 44 million blacks. 
 

you wanted to talk ratio, let’s talk about it.

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1 minute ago, ghostz life matters said:

Do the math. 250 million whites, 44 million blacks. 
 

you wanted to talk ratio, let’s talk about it.

Except, by ratio...................72% of all police shootings should by going to whites, if police are treating everybody the same, and based on the amount of crime they commit.

 

Except black people have a higher chance of getting shot.

 

2.8 times more than white people.

 

Do you acknowledge that, yes or no?

 

If you attempt another circular argument, or run over to a tangential argument that has ALREADY been made, then you are clearly avoiding the subject.

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1 minute ago, jehurey said:

Except, by ratio...................72% of all police shootings should by going to whites, if police are treating everybody the same, and based on the amount of crime they commit.

 

Except black people have a higher chance of getting shot.

 

2.8 times more than white people.

 

Do you acknowledge that, yes or no?

 

If you attempt another circular argument, or run over to a tangential argument that has ALREADY been made, then you are clearly avoiding the subject.

White people have been shot over 2x as much this year as black people. And you’re looking at all crimes, such as fraud. When it comes to violent crimes, such as MURDER, blacks account for 50% of it. So yeah it would make sense, considering on average, black people murder SIGNIFICANTLY more. 
 

nothing disproportionate about it at all, really. 

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Just now, ghostz life matters said:

White people have been shot over 2x as much this year as black people. And you’re looking at all crimes, such as fraud. When it comes to violent crimes, such as MURDER, blacks account for 50% of it. So yeah it would make sense, considering on average, black people murder SIGNIFICANTLY more. 
 

nothing disproportionate about it at all, really. 

Circular argument..........yet again.

 

You are clearly trying to make a hypocritical argument BY NOT ACKNOWLEDGE "disproportion" in the cops killing people by race.

 

But you want to apply it for every else.

 

That shows your racist intent by intentionally OMITTING ifnormation.

 

AND you are intentionally trying to NARROW the type of crime.

 

Crime is crime...........ANY TYPE OF CRIME means that you WILL HAVE A CONFRONTATION with a police officer.

 

You have repeated avoided this, and tried to slant the stats, every time.

 

This makes you clearly look like you have a racist agenda.

 

I am including ALL INFORMATION.

 

You are intentionally LEAVING OUT INFORMATION.

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Just now, jehurey said:

Circular argument..........yet again.

 

You are clearly trying to make a hypocritical argument BY NOT ACKNOWLEDGE "disproportion" in the cops killing people by race.

 

But you want to apply it for every else.

 

That shows your racist intent by intentionally OMITTING ifnormation.

 

AND you are intentionally trying to NARROW the type of crime.

 

Crime is crime...........ANY TYPE OF CRIME means that you WILL HAVE A CONFRONTATION with a police officer.

 

You have repeated avoided this, and tried to slant the stats, every time.

 

This makes you clearly look like you have a racist agenda.

 

I am including ALL INFORMATION.

 

You are intentionally LEAVING OUT INFORMATION.

Oh I’ve acknowledged your attempt at it. But I clearly proved it wrong. Black people are 2.3x more likely to commit a crime and 50% of the murders in the USA come from that 13% of the population. It makes 100% sense and is not disproportionate whatsoever. 

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Just now, ghostz life matters said:

Oh I’ve acknowledged

that you are INTENTIONALLY leaving out all information.........to purposely slant the stats.

 

Yes, you definitely have.

While intentionally avoiding simple facts.............WHITE COMMIT MORE CRIMES, therefore WHITES HAVE MORE POLICE CONFRONTATIONS.

 

yet blacks are getting shot more by police than whites by a ratio of 2.8 to 1.

 

There is nothing you can say that changes any of that.

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3 minutes ago, jehurey said:

that you are INTENTIONALLY leaving out all information.........to purposely slant the stats.

 

Yes, you definitely have.

While intentionally avoiding simple facts.............WHITE COMMIT MORE CRIMES, therefore WHITES HAVE MORE POLICE CONFRONTATIONS.

 

yet blacks are getting shot more by police than whites by a ratio of 2.8 to 1.

 

There is nothing you can say that changes any of that.

So now you want to use ratios? Because whites commit crime, but blacks disproportionately commit more crime. Despite being 13% of the population, they amount to 30% of crime. 
 

you don’t want to use ratios? Okay - more white people are killed annually by police than blacks

 

again, you have no argument

Edited August 31, 2020 by ghostz life matters

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1 minute ago, ghostz life matters said:

So now you want to use ratios? Because whites commit crime, but blacks disproportionately commit more crime. Despite being 13% of the population, they amount to 30% of crime. 
 

you don’t want to use ratios? Okay - more white people are killed annually by police than blacks

 

again, you have no argument

Yet they get shot at an even higher ratio than whites than their ratio of crime.

 

So no matter how much you want to be outrage at the ratio of their crimes..........you should be EVEN MORE OUTRAGED at the HIGHER RATIO in which their getting shot.

 

Wrong.

 

You are the one who WANTS TO USE RATIO in some places........but not in others.

 

I use both ratios and raw stats in all places.

 

That is what makes you look like you clearly have a racist agenda.

 

Here I am going to use BOTH RATIO and RAW STATS to make some very simple facts:

 

1. White people commit more crimes (raw stat)
2. Therefore white people have had more confrontations with a police officer BECAUSE they have more crimes (which means more arrests took place with a police officer) (another raw stat)
3. Yet black people have gotten shot at a significantly higher ratio than whites, even though there is lower raw number of police confrontations (both a ratio stat fact, and a raw number stat fact).

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7 hours ago, jehurey said:

Yet they get shot at an even higher ratio than whites than their ratio of crime.

 

So no matter how much you want to be outrage at the ratio of their crimes..........you should be EVEN MORE OUTRAGED at the HIGHER RATIO in which their getting shot.

 

Wrong.

 

You are the one who WANTS TO USE RATIO in some places........but not in others.

 

I use both ratios and raw stats in all places.

 

That is what makes you look like you clearly have a racist agenda.

 

Here I am going to use BOTH RATIO and RAW STATS to make some very simple facts:

 

1. White people commit more crimes (raw stat)
2. Therefore white people have had more confrontations with a police officer BECAUSE they have more crimes (which means more arrests took place with a police officer) (another raw stat)
3. Yet black people have gotten shot at a significantly higher ratio than whites, even though there is lower raw number of police confrontations (both a ratio stat fact, and a raw number stat fact).

2.3x likely to commit a crime and 2.8x likely to be shot are close enough. It makes totally, 100% sense. White people have had more confrontations, which is why more white people shot. Black people have a higher ratio of being shot, because they have a higher ratio of committing more crime. 

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8 hours ago, Remij said:

Sometimes though you gotta admit, if they'd just shut the fuck up and listen to orders, they'd be shot far less lol

 

On 2020-08-29 at 4:06 PM, Goukosan said:

 

 

If only this white man had shut the fuck up and obey orders he wouldn't have been shot....... oh wait he wasn't shot for some odd reason 

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21 minutes ago, Goukosan said:

 

If only this white man had shut the fuck up and obey orders he wouldn't have been shot....... oh wait he wasn't shot for some odd reason 

There are more white people shot by police every year. Awful example... and that person is probably a rent a cop or some shit. If a real cop ever acted that way, he should be fired. That guy could have easily killed in other  people. 
 

also... that guy isn’t white. He’s middle eastern. So yeah, awful example.  His name was Yaroub Assad

Edited August 31, 2020 by ghostz life matters

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26 minutes ago, Goukosan said:

 

If only this white man had shut the fuck up and obey orders he wouldn't have been shot....... oh wait he wasn't shot for some odd reason 

SOMETIMES I said...

 

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4 minutes ago, Remij said:

SOMETIMES I said...

 

That isn’t a white man 

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8 hours ago, jehurey said:

No.................that's a stupid, almost amateurish excuse.

 

Their COPS.

 

THEIR REGULATED.

 

WE CREATE THE REGULATIONS.

 

It has nothing to do with "culture"

 

There has been 215 Mexican police officers killed by the end of May 2020. On track for 500 officers dying in the line of duty.

 

You can't possibly be this uninformed.

Once again you deflect the actual issue at the hand to use one of the most VIOLENT countries with one of the worst living conditions on the planet...one that wasn’t even on your chart to begin with.  
 

you can’t prove police brutality is a reality so all you’re doing is desperately trying to extend an argument well beyond its usefulness because you can’t admit to being wrong or misinformed (shocker).