jehurey 3,238 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) Quote Oct. 28, 2020 Tucker Carlson Reports He Lost Only Copy of Documents That Nail Biden By Jonathan Chait The Trump campaign and its right-wing media messengers have devoted the final stretch of the election to insisting they had uncovered proof of deep corruption by the Biden family, along with demands that the mainstream media cover their allegations. (“Cover” means float insinuations of guilt, rather than nailing down the truth of the charges.) There have been several fishy aspects to the accusations, however. For one, incriminating information supposedly located on a Hunter Biden laptop left in a Delaware computer shop had in fact been circulating in Ukraine well before it was reportedly turned over to Rudy Giuliani’s lawyer. Over the weekend, Time reported that the Hunter Biden emails and photos were being shopped in Kiev last fall by somebody who “wanted to sell it to Republican allies of President Trump.” Several days later, Politico reported the “Hunter Biden laptop” material was being shopped around by a “Ukrainian oligarch looking for help with a potential legal jam” as early as spring of 2019. Another oddity in the timing, as Andrew Prokop noticed, is that the star witness for Fox News and Trump, Tony Bobulinski, claimed he only came forward because he was outraged at the response to the New York Post story first reporting the email hacks. But Ben Smith reported in the New York Times that Bobulinski was working with Trump’s campaign to pitch the story to the Wall Street Journal, before they settled for giving it to the New York Post. (The Journal duly reported that they had no evidence of wrongdoing by Joe Biden.) On Wednesday night’s show, Tucker Carlson reported that his team had acquired incriminating documents. However, they sent them from Washington to Los Angeles, and the documents disappeared. And they neglected to make any copies. So now the only copy of the documents that would nail the probable next President of the United States are gone https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/10/tucker-carlson-lost-only-copy-of-documents-nailing-biden.html So, just to recap, Tucker Carlson's "people" had a hold of documents...........and they thought to themselves "we need to send a copy of this to another office". And they couldn't think of: -Scanning (2000's decade technology) -Texting photos (2010's decade technology) -Using a fax machine (1970's decade technology) And they decided on using late 1700's technology, and they didn't decide to use a copy machine to send a copy of documents that are already copies themselves (since they would have to be printouts of emails) And they just happened to not use a personal courier (which all actual corporate business would use), or even a paid service like DHL, UPS, Fedex, or United States Priority Postal Service with actual tracking. This story, the biggest scandal of the year, that is meant for a nightly tv show that is rushing to air this story as quickly as possible...............and they used regular mail service? Yeah, this sounds believable. I hope the alt-right'ers here know that Fox News' lawyers defending Tucker Carlson have argued in court that his show is not a "factual" news program, that its an entertainment program and they provide "non-literal commentary". Right? I'm not kidding, here's proof of the court document where the judge re-asserts Tucker's lawyers argument: https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/new-york/nysdce/1:2019cv11161/527808/39/ Quote I. Carlson’s Statements Are Not Actionable as Defamation Fox News first argues that, viewed in context, Mr. Carlson cannot be understood to have been stating facts, but instead that he was delivering an opinion using hyperbole for effect. Quote In light of this precedent and the context of “Tucker Carlson Tonight,” the Court finds that Mr. Carlson’s invocation of “extortion” against Ms. McDougal is nonactionable hyperbole, intended to frame the debate in the guest commentator segment that followed Mr. Carlson’s soliloquy. As Defendant notes, Mr. Carlson himself aims to “challenge[] political correctness and media bias.” Def. Br. at 14. This “general tenor” of the show should then inform a viewer that he is not “stating actual facts” about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in “exaggeration” and “non-literal commentary.” Milkovich, 497 U.S. at 20-21; Levinsky’s, Inc. v. Wal-Mart Stores, Inc., 127 F.3d 122, 128 (1st Cir. 1997)). Fox persuasively argues, see Def Br. at 13-15, that given Mr. Carlson’s reputation, any reasonable viewer “arrive[s] with an appropriate amount of skepticism” about the statements he makes. 600 W. 115th Corp. v. Von Gutfeld, 80 N.Y.2d 130, 141, 603 N.E.2d 930, 936 (1992). Whether the Court frames Mr. Carlson’s statements as “exaggeration,” “non-literal commentary,” or simply bloviating for his audience, the conclusion remains the same—the statements are not actionable So, its not up for debate. Don't ever post anything from Tucker Carlson again. He has legally declared that he does not state facts. Close this idiotic thread. Edited October 29, 2020 by jehurey 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Ike★ 2,910 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 I’m gonna leave it open just so we can keep laughing at this. There was no October surprise and Tucker Carlson is not a journalist nor does he present facts. In fact, he argued in court that his show shouldn’t be taken literally: https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye What an abject failure this whole thing turned out to be. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
kaz 2,439 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 10 hours ago, Mr. Impossible said: Cool. I'm still voting for Biden as many times as I can anyway. lmfao, i know twinb is a trump sucking die hard faggggot but I don't get what he's trying to accomplish here. Link to post Share on other sites
kaz 2,439 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 5 hours ago, Twinblade said: Biden has been compromised by foreign countries. He is a danger to the U.S. wtf someone please make this their signature or I will. wtf twinblade? you seem like a normal guy with common sense how can you be so blind? Link to post Share on other sites
Cooke 2,030 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 9 hours ago, jehurey said: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/10/tucker-carlson-lost-only-copy-of-documents-nailing-biden.html So, just to recap, Tucker Carlson's "people" had a hold of documents...........and they thought to themselves "we need to send a copy of this to another office". And they couldn't think of: -Scanning (2000's decade technology) -Texting photos (2010's decade technology) -Using a fax machine (1970's decade technology) And they decided on using late 1700's technology, and they didn't decide to use a copy machine to send a copy of documents that are already copies themselves (since they would have to be printouts of emails) And they just happened to not use a personal courier (which all actual corporate business would use), or even a paid service like DHL, UPS, Fedex, or United States Priority Postal Service with actual tracking. This story, the biggest scandal of the year, that is meant for a nightly tv show that is rushing to air this story as quickly as possible...............and they used regular mail service? Yeah, this sounds believable. I hope the alt-right'ers here know that Fox News' lawyers defending Tucker Carlson have argued in court that his show is not a "factual" news program, that its an entertainment program and they provide "non-literal commentary". Right? I'm not kidding, here's proof of the court document where the judge re-asserts Tucker's lawyers argument: https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/new-york/nysdce/1:2019cv11161/527808/39/ So, its not up for debate. Don't ever post anything from Tucker Carlson again. He has legally declared that he does not state facts. Close this idiotic thread. You should get a job at Twitter Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,238 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Cooke (not admin cant help said: You should get a job at Twitter Oh maybe you should just stop talking when you know you are in the wrong. Because trying to think of clever comebacks isn't working. Which, ironically enough, makes you more qualified to work at twitter than me. LOL Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,256 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Cooke (not admin cant help said: You should get a job at Twitter Awww don't be mad because the story was false just like I told you..... Not our fault you're gullible. Link to post Share on other sites
nitric 472 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 To anyone that wants to watch Fucker Carlson embarrass himself and Faux News. This is why Faux News is one of the worst news sources around. Link to post Share on other sites
nitric 472 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 19 hours ago, jehurey said: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/10/tucker-carlson-lost-only-copy-of-documents-nailing-biden.html So, just to recap, Tucker Carlson's "people" had a hold of documents...........and they thought to themselves "we need to send a copy of this to another office". And they couldn't think of: -Scanning (2000's decade technology) -Texting photos (2010's decade technology) -Using a fax machine (1970's decade technology) And they decided on using late 1700's technology, and they didn't decide to use a copy machine to send a copy of documents that are already copies themselves (since they would have to be printouts of emails) And they just happened to not use a personal courier (which all actual corporate business would use), or even a paid service like DHL, UPS, Fedex, or United States Priority Postal Service with actual tracking. This story, the biggest scandal of the year, that is meant for a nightly tv show that is rushing to air this story as quickly as possible...............and they used regular mail service? Yeah, this sounds believable. I hope the alt-right'ers here know that Fox News' lawyers defending Tucker Carlson have argued in court that his show is not a "factual" news program, that its an entertainment program and they provide "non-literal commentary". Right? I'm not kidding, here's proof of the court document where the judge re-asserts Tucker's lawyers argument: https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/new-york/nysdce/1:2019cv11161/527808/39/ So, its not up for debate. Don't ever post anything from Tucker Carlson again. He has legally declared that he does not state facts. Close this idiotic thread. Did @Twinblade read this? Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,238 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Just now, nitric said: Did @Twinblade read this? He did his best impression of a 1950's middle-American housewife who has a gay son and pretended that he didn't see it. Link to post Share on other sites
Twinblade★ 3,925 Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 I read it but could care less, the documents have been found and they'll hopefully reveal more juicy bits of info about how corrupt Biden and his family are. Link to post Share on other sites
Kitad 95 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 LMFAO another manufactured buttery males that's even less competently put together Link to post Share on other sites
Kitad 95 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/ivanka-trump-violated-the-hatch-act-eight-times-in-just-over-48-hours/ Right Trump isn't corrupt uh huh sure Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,238 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 26 minutes ago, Twinblade said: I read it but could care less, the documents have been found and they'll hopefully reveal more juicy bits of info about how corrupt Biden and his family are. No. You either respect the facts, or you don't. No such documents exist. And you taking Tucker Carlson's word..........when he has LEGALLY DECLARED himself in a court of law that he does not say facts..........is you SHOWING BIAS. So.........don't come in here and talk to us like as if you have any credibility on the subject. You don't. You're response right now just proved you don't have any credibility. In fact, you have a pre-determined bias. You are basically telling us that you are not smart enough, or willing enough, to accept what is factual and what isn't. Link to post Share on other sites
lostfool 680 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 The Young Turks destroy Pecker Carlson. Link to post Share on other sites
Substatic 421 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Tucker Carlson is not a real news source. He even told this to a court. Do you have a real link. Link to post Share on other sites
Substatic 421 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, nitric said: To anyone that wants to watch Fucker Carlson embarrass himself and Faux News. This is why Faux News is one of the worst news sources around. YIkes. Time to lock another one of your own threads TB. Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,256 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Twinblade said: I read it but could care less, the documents have been found and they'll hopefully reveal more juicy bits of info about how corrupt Biden and his family are. When facts slaps you in your face you could care less. 🤣 What's your source for the documents have been found? Again you're breaking the rules of the political board. "claims need to be backed up w/ links" Edited October 30, 2020 by Goukosan Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,238 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Goukosan said: When facts slaps you in your face you could care less. 🤣 What's your source for the documents have been found? Again you're breaking the rules of the political board. "claims need to be backed up w/ links" And this is why the whole narrative that "both sides are to blame" and "there's such division these days" is bullshit. Pure bullshit. There isn't division being perpetrated by both sides. There is ONE SIDE who is causing this division and THEY KNOW THEY ARE CAUSING this division.........and they don't fucking care. Because there is nothing they will agree with. Not even facts. When presented with facts........they act like as if facts can be dismissed. They genuinely, GENUINELY THINK that their BELIEF carries the same weight as a FACT. Link to post Share on other sites
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