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There is nothing to debate. Biden got steam rolled by Donald Trump.    you want someone who gets streamrolled as a president? Lmfao. It’s over, Trump is gonna win by a larger margin than last t

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Just now, Cooke (not admin cant help said:

Why is America the only industrialised country where you only get 2 choices that are pre decided by a bunch of party hacks? 

Stay on topic, or go make a thread with your pathetic 3rd party talk. (you probably already did).

 

This thread is about the debate.

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Trump's plan here was to make things things muddy.

 

Biden seems to have chosen to remain calm during all of Trump's lying rants. And boy were there a whole bunch of them.

 

I bet men won't like that Biden remained calm, I think they would want Biden to get loud and angry.

 

But the way he handled it makes people see one person ranting like crazy, and the other person staying calm like an adult.

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3 minutes ago, -GD-X said:

I don’t either won/lost. Both sucked. Neither will sway those on the fence. 

 

Trump lost.... he actually told the white supremacists to stand by and he refused to denounce them.     

 

He was asked a straight question about it and his response was "Bbbbbbut teh left".... 

 

The hardcore Trumptards won't be swayed... but those moderate Republicans who gave Trunp a chance will be. 

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36 minutes ago, Mr. Impossible said:

lol You work for Trump campaign or something? Like there's got to be some point where you know you're not being honest with yourself. 

I knew I made a mistake by coming back to this forum for the debate. You are all insufferable.

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2 minutes ago, Twinblade said:

He called soldiers stupid bastards....it’s on tape. Not only does that make him a liar it also makes him a hypocrite.

No, you are attempting to mislead:

 

 

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Fact check: Joe Biden called troops 'stupid bastards,' but only 'jokingly'

Camille Caldera
USA TODAY
 

The claim: Former Vice President Joe Biden called troops 'stupid bastards.'

A September story, The Atlantic reported that President Donald Trump had called service members who died at war "losers" and "suckers."

Now, posts online have begun to claim that his opponent in the presidential contest, former Vice President Joe Biden, disrespected the troops, too.

video posted to Facebook claims Biden called American troops "stupid bastards."

"Notwithstanding what you may hear about me, I have incredibly good judgment," Biden remarks in the video. "One, I married Jill. And two, I appointed Johnson to the Academy, I just want you to know that."

After a moment of silence, Biden tells the troops, "Clap for that, you stupid bastards."

"You be the judge on whether this is disrespectful," the caption of the video reads. "What would the media say if President Trump did this?"

The user behind the post did not respond to a request from USA TODAY for comment.

 

Footage is real, but campaign claims Biden made the remark 'jokingly'

The footage of the moment is real. It was from a trip to Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates, on March 7, 2016, and he was speaking with troops stationed at Al Dhafra Air Base.

 

Lt. Karen Johnson — a native of Wilmington, Delaware — introduced Biden to the rest of the troops, per a video from The Washington Examiner. Later in his speech, Biden told the crowd that he had appointed Johnson to "the academy," a reference to one of the nation's five service academies.

 

After that remark, expecting applause, Biden encouraged the troops to clap for Johnson in part by calling them "stupid bastards."

 

Once they began to applaud, he continued, "Man, you are a dull bunch. Must be slow here, man."

However, Andrew Bates, a spokesman for his campaign, said it was a joke.

 

“Vice President Biden was jokingly encouraging the audience to clap for an airwoman on the stage, and a number of service members can be seen laughing and smiling at the comment. Seconds before, he praised them for 'the incredible sacrifices (they) make for our country,’” Bates told The Daily Beast.

 

“He thanked them for their patriotism and courage throughout, and closed his remarks by saying, 'You’re the finest generation of warriors the world has ever, ever known' — receiving an enthusiastic ovation,” Bates added.

 

The footage confirms his praise for the troops.

At the start of his speech, for example, he told the soldiers that the "one regret" he has every time he visits them is that "the folks back home can't see you; can't see you in place. Don't get to fly on the mission with you. Don't understand."

"They appreciate, but they don't fully understand the incredible sacrifices you make for our country,” Biden added.

Later in the speech, he thanked the troops and their families.

The former vice president's late son, Beau Biden, served in the Delaware Army National Guard and was deployed to Iraq in 2008, per the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs.

 

Our rating: Missing context

Based on our research, the claim that former Vice President Joe Biden called the troops "stupid bastards" is missing context. Biden did make the remark in 2016 as part of a call to applaud a fellow soldier. It was a joke, per a spokesperson for his campaign. During the same speech, he praised the troops as the "finest generation of warriors" in the world and thanked them for their "incredible sacrifices."

 

Why did you think that you could the hide the context of the remark, when you know its very different than what Trump has been caught doing multiple times?

 

Why did you think you could post something misleading and think I wouldn't find out its proper context?

 

 

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CNN Poll Results:

 

On who won the debate: 60% Biden, 28% Trump

 

Predictions on winning the debate: 43% Biden, 56% Trump

 

More Truthful: 65% Biden, 29% Trump

 

Biden Attacks Fair?: yes 69% No 28%

 

Trump Attacks Fair?: Yes 32% No 67%

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